Why Not to Vote Democrat

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Originally Posted by Alan

I know that majority rule is quite popular with people who consider the US a Democracy rather than a Republic, mostly because they believe that a slight majority of citizens should be able to control the slight minority.

Constitutions, whether state or federal are the basis for all laws in their respective jurisdictions and should be preserved from the "tyranny of the majority" which our nation's founders (and common sense) warned us against. Or, at least make it hard enough to change to prevent people such as your "hater" neighbor and others like him to use it to your disadvantage or, conversely, for you to use it against him.

I recently saw a poll which revealed that somewhere near 50% of millennials believe citizens should be jailed for "mis-gendering" others. Throw into the mix some percentage of culture warriors of other generations and their dream could be realized in many states. Do you really want that?

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https://www.them.us/story/canadian-c...ghts-violation

Millennials probably think this, because that kinder, gentler nation of Canada has put this into law. Misgender someone and you go to jail.

thank you for bringing up this topic. I was going to bring up this Canadian case on the thread here about first amendment, free-speech limitations, but I didn’t get around to it. I think there’s an Australian incident or two going on in the same vein.


Our United States Constitution is unique among western nations in having the First amendment so clearly articulated.

Even though our Biden government would prefer us to use biologically incorrect terms for humans, our government cannot —yet – compel our speech.

Well, if Eli Crane can't be prosecuted and jailed for calling African Americans "colored people" I don't think that people who intentionally or inadvertently mis-gender people should be prosecuted and jailed.

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Originally Posted by catherine

Well, if Eli Crane can't be prosecuted and jailed for calling African Americans "colored people" I don't think that people who intentionally or inadvertently mis-gender people should be prosecuted and jailed.

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Do you think whoever Eli Crane is should be prosecuted and go to jail for using the term "colored people"? If so, would that also apply to the omnipresent usage of the term "people of color"?

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Originally Posted by Alan

I recently saw a poll which revealed that somewhere near 50% of millennials believe citizens should be jailed for "mis-gendering" others. Throw into the mix some percentage of culture warriors of other generations and their dream could be realized in many states. Do you really want that?

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Jail, for speech?!?!

Umm, well, good luck with that.

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Originally Posted by Alan

Do you think whoever Eli Crane is should be prosecuted and go to jail for using the term "colored people"? If so, would that also apply to the omnipresent usage of the term "people of color"?

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Legally, no I don't.

Linguistically/culturally, there is a huge difference between referring to people as "colored people" vs "people of color" even though that nuance may seem slim to some..

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Jail, for speech?!?!

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Just another fear-mongering tactic to keep people from articulating their legislative ideas when the current plutocrats refuse to actually consider any legislation that does not further their consolidation of power. The Ohio constitution has functioned as intended for 110 years, but now the powers that be see a chance to solidify their power base even further, so they're going for it.

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Originally Posted by early morning

The Ohio constitution has functioned as intended for 110 years, but now the powers that be see a chance to solidify their power base even further, so they're going for it.

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I believe it requires 75% of the US States to vote "aye" to ratify any amendments to the US Constitution?

And on a more local level, my HOA requires a super-majority to change any of our controlling documents.

And my State requires a super-majority in our legislature to approve any tax increases.

I'm not convinced that a simple majority is the correct solution to everything...

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Originally Posted by Alan

Do you think whoever Eli Crane is should be prosecuted and go to jail for using the term "colored people"? If so, would that also apply to the omnipresent usage of the term "people of color"?

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Shoot, should librarians be fined if they have books in their collections that use the term “ Negro?”

I once received a book challenge in my public library from someone who objected to a standard text decades-old that used the word “Negro” in the title. I did not remove this book from the collection.

More realistically and easier to address, a staff member once called me about the word “Nixxer” in our library’s catalog. It was in a catalog record that correctly referred to Agatha Christie’s book “10 Little Indians “as it was an edition note that told the original title “10 little Nixxers.” The book was later published under an even more sanitized title “And then there were none. “

Since that edition note using offensive language wasn’t really necessary to have in a catalog record, I deleted it and made the staff member happy. But my action did delete a fact. In this case, feelings over facts. Sigh.

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Originally Posted by catherine

Legally, no I don't.

Linguistically/culturally, there is a huge difference between referring to people as "colored people" vs "people of color" even though that nuance may seem slim to some..

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the Biden White House would have to set up a tribunal like the Canadians with definitions of what is correct speak and what isn’t.

Oh, I would really look forward to that bullshit. Not.

I could only hope it would be tossed out like the Ministry of Truth or whatever that ridiculous thing was called.