They wouldn't listen to me because they make money off the existing paradigm.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
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They wouldn't listen to me because they make money off the existing paradigm.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
That’s the beautiful thing about conspiracy theories. Closed loop systems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
The City of St. louis deals with that by failing to answer 60% of 911 calls at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogar
If you head off the business at the beginning, you will have less business. win/win.
I don't think it's a horrid idea at all, as long as an exception is made for those who cannot be vaccinated due to a valid medical reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tybee
Now that omicron has been the dominant variant for a while in the US, Biden has finally decided to lift travel restrictions from southern African countries, but not immediately. He is out of touch and always trailing behind the reality on the ground.
From Israel, which has tried all the "best practices" of the establishment, an editorial finally admitting that vaccines and boosters won't stop covid. It will end when we all get infected and develop natural immunity:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...d=winp1taskbar
And by then a certain % of the population will have long covid and permanent disability, plus perhaps other long term damage and dysfunction to the brain and immune system.
Nah it's worth trying to avoid, but that's trying within reason (sure wearing an N95/KN95 mask when one can do so), but most people can't *perfectly* avoid it either, and some less than others, not if one has to work etc. (and yes I often work from home, but bf hasn't been able to). At a certain point it's almost like trying to avoid pollution, yea that stuff will kill you, take 2 years off your life, but have to breath, just one doesn't go and sniff car exhaust either.
Hmmm. I wonder if that's why they're testing a fourth shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...ht-2021-12-27/
Concerned about the risk of a sudden surge in hospitalizations, a ministry expert panel last week recommended Israel become the first country to offer a fourth jab to medical workers and those over 60 or with compromised immune systems.
As mentioned, I referred to an editorial. It is from a thought leader, not the Israeli government, but someone who has seen Israel try everything and applied a little common sense to the situation after trying more of the same vaccine based approach (boosting) has failed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogar
With all the scary news, I was expecting to see lots of masks when I ran errands today. Out of scores of people, I only saw a few - mostly on older people. So many disconnects with this virus saga but I can see why after a while, one decides to just move on with life. Que sera...
The message seems to be life sucks (here are all the restrictions we will slap on you) and then you die (because the restrictions will not stop covid anyways). That being the case I am thinking about parachuting when the weather gets warmer. Why not live life dangerously when it is so precarious?
I went skydiving once, 25ish years ago. It was AMAZING. I did a tandem dive with an instructor strapped to my back. Immediately afterwards I was ready to go again.* The next day I was planning to do the lessons necessary to do a solo dive. The next day I was slightly less motivated but still excited about it. And so on and so forth until about two weeks later when I realized that I had no desire ever to do it again. But I still remember it as an AMAZING experience that I am incredibly glad I did once. The place we went (just north of NYC) was highly recommended so I have no reason to think that it was unsafe in any way.
Fun fact, I probably would have enjoyed it more if I'd been wearing a face mask. As soon as we fell out of the plane I started shouting "F*** F*** F*** F*** F*** F***" nonstop until he pulled the cord for the parachute. As fast as one is falling it's actually somewhat difficult to exhale if one's mouth is open. I likely would have been less freaked out if I'd kept my mouth shut. Or if I'd been wearing a mask to slow the airflow jamming into my mouth.
*Of course it didn't hurt my opinion of skydiving that the instructor strapped to my back was a super duper cutie!
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F**k sky diving. I hate heights.
Now cave diving…:D
I see two super-duper cuties in that snapshot. :D
Awww. You are so kind. The super duper cutie is wearing a purple shirt. I'm just the sort of cutie.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
I think you are way cuter than the other guy!Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
They are both cute. Now let’s move on.
haha, kidding. That was an interesting first-hand experience of sky diving JP.
Haha.
Love the sky-diving experience! Thanks so much for sharing. And, yes, to super duper cuties!
My parish has cancelled Sunday school and coffee hour for the entire month of January. We’re still streaming services. I expect some of the older folks might go back to staying home for a few weeks at least. We don’t have pews, chairs instead. So it’s quite easy to go back to seating with more space between family groups.
I'm going to wait out the coming surge, if any, before venturing out to get my booster. After all, I'm safe here in the bunker. :~)
Are you still without a car?Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
I pretty much only go into dive shops these days or Walgreens for allergy meds. Amazon for everything including groceries.
because parachuting sounds about as appealing as being strung to a torture rack. It's like "hey why not try waterboarding if life is so precarious? wouldn't you like to know what it is like to be waterboarded before you die? Wouldn't it be a pity to die before one has experienced waterboarding?". Uh no, no, it really would not. I mean I could see getting into drugs, if one had no concern for consequences, at least that sounds like fun.Quote:
The message seems to be life sucks (here are all the restrictions we will slap on you) and then you die (because the restrictions will not stop covid anyways). That being the case I am thinking about parachuting when the weather gets warmer. Why not live life dangerously when it is so precarious?
I think skydiving would be fun, just risky. Drugs are not my thing.
Today I went to the supermarket. What a mob scene! It was so packed. Covid obviously has not cut down on the population much.
Here in the lower Midwest we’re having our last very nice day of balmy weather. December has been crazy nice weather.
I went all the way out to the country today to attend a bulldog meet up that was held outdoors. 15 bulldogs milling around, can’t get better than that.
With the case counts going so high we’re not going to be doing indoor dining again until things calm back down.
Yep. A non-vaxxed friend had wanted to go out to dinner after I got back from my FL trip. Cook County (where Chicago is) mandated vax cards must be shown after 1/3 for indoor dining, visiting the gym, etc. I’ll have to show mine when I go back to the gym. So no dining out for her.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Yeah, but Uber will do the trick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tradd
I have no excuse about the car. I can't say I miss it much.
I'm working on the Amazon Fresh order I'll have delivered in a few days when the snow is gone.
My daughter and I are having dinner, indoors, with our next-door neighbors tonight. We've all been involuntarily quarantined here for about a week due to the severe weather event, and neither household has seen anyone else during this time. Nonetheless, all parties involved took Covid tests about 30 mins ago.
We'd dine outside, but it is currently 20 degrees outside, and winds should pick up to 30+ knots this evening.
Fun times.
All the caution will just prolong the time until we get past this, because eventually everyone will get it and then we'll be done. Yes, no escaping it even in quarantine:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/30/healt...ion/index.html
Pretty much my take on a lot of extreme sports, and well put.Quote:
Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore
Psilocybin was fun, and having a renaissance, I understand.
Yes, we are being bad bad antisocial people by protecting our 80+ year old neighbors and keeping them from catching Covid now, at a time when medical resources are extremely scarce here, and transport nearly impossible due to the weather.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
If we cared, we'd simply put them out on an ice floe and be done with it.
My mistake.
I sent that link to a couple of friends. I may go back to disinfecting my groceries...:help:Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
I don't doubt that elites have access to tests that ordinary people can't get (just as the First World has access to initial doses the Third World can't get - thus all the variants). Equity? What's that?Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
**** you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
When replies devolve into cursing, it might be better to utilize the "ignore" function on this board. And I wish quotes were not used in replies because it shows me the content I am trying to avoid.
Better for me to ignore this whole topic since it is not really valid what another state is doing when I live in the uneducated Midwest.
I guess everyone with an Amazon account and a credit card qualifies as an elite then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
I just checked and our county had 461 positives yesterday. That’s roughly one out of every 600 people who live here. In just one day. Multiply that out over a week and roughly one of every hundred residents is infected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tradd
Excellent math skills. Now here's another question - what percent of the population do you think have to get infected before restrictions go away?Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Say 100% of people are positive - is there any point then to quarantining or masks? What if the positivity rate is 97%? Or 80%? Or 50%?
ETA Here is a current list of positivity rates by state and DC:
https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...s-july-14.html
Depends on how full the hospitals are. Death rates needlessly go up when hospitals can't effectively treat everyone that needs treatment. Even in a highly vaxxed and boosted county like mine a 25% or 50% positivity rate would likely overwhelm the hospitals. Especially if the lower vaxxed areas of the state had anywhere near that kind of positivity rate since they would be needing exponentially more hospital space than they have and would be trying to send patients here.