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I’m curious how people panic buying TP has anything to do with socialism. Capitalism, on the other hand, is directly linked to the people I read about the other day, who had driven all over Ohio buying up every bottle of hand sanitizer hoping to make a big windfall selling it for obscene prices on amazon.
I keep asking because he is such an interesting case. A non-Democrat fighting hard to gain power using the Democratic Party as a vehicle. A millionaire socialist, doing his utmost to revive the class resentments of the 1930s. A professional politician claiming outsider status. A man who can’t help but praise Cuba’s claimed accomplishments in literacy or medicine without reference to the summary executions and establishment of a ruling dynasty. An old, old man whose primary allegiance seem to be among middle class and upper class youth.Quote:
Originally Posted by catherine
The contradictions are legion; perhaps the biggest of which may be the damage he does to the future implementation of his ideas by creating division within his own party and reminding the country at large of socialism’s prior tragic failures.
I LOVE contradictions. They make life fascinating. You make a good point--maybe that's why I love Bernie.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
(One of my favorite books that survived The Purge was Living with Contradiction by Esther de Wall: https://www.amazon.com/Living-Contra...0819217549--as a Catholic, it might interest you.)
As for socialism.. socialism is a broad term. You can have failures (Cuba, Venezuela) and you can have successes (Scandinavia). Sanders' difficulty was/is explaining what American Democratic socialism would look like. If it wound up looking in America like a bigger version of the city he led, Burlington, it would be a success. The younger people get it. They are not hog-tied to past perceptions. They are more open to a world where the few don't benefit at the expense of the many. They realize "Trickle-down economics" only trickles down so far. They feel that uncoupling health insurance from employer benefits is good for the employer and the employee. They feel that justice still needs to be better served in large swaths of our citizenry.
Bernie has survived the generation gap and the status quo and has gone very far in both 2016 and 2020 campaigns to point out that as great as we are, we can still do better. So, I think in way, he's won.
I doubt Cuba would have been such a failure if we hadn't relentlessly sanctioned them over everything possible. We treated them like the scourge of the universe instead of the minor player they were.Quote:
Originally Posted by catherine
In my opinion, Democratic socialism combines the best of two systems into one that works for everyone. Unlike our current kakistocracy.
I’d always considered our system to be more of a kleptocracy. But I think you’re right. After the last election we have certainly added in a large element of kakistocracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
Yeah, I debated whether to use kleptocracy, but decided we had devolved.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
The 2 brothers that bought up a ton of hand sanitizer and put it in a storage unit had amazon shut them down and contacted authorities. The police came and took it while thanking them for the donation:))
That part of the story is untrue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teacher Terry
Well then someone put a fake video of the incident then.
The New York Times said he donated most of it to a Church after getting a raft of death threats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teacher Terry