Billions for Climate Change

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Originally Posted by Gregg

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Except for the Watts Bar 2 its been 20 years since our last reactor came online and the vast majority of the US nuclear plants were built between the late 1960s and the early/mid 1980s. Thirty to as much as 50 years ago.

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While it is true that the US has been very risk averse to nuclear power since Three Mile Island, the rest of the world hasn't shared our concern. With 60 reactors currently under construction around the world there're ample modern engineering examples available for study.

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

Our relationship with Russia has been one of mutual hostility for a much longer time than that.

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True.....and that needs to change. A Russian-USA alliance would be a nice paradigm with both feeling comfortable with a reduction in nuclear warheads and military spending. Both populations would benefit from an investment in infrastructure from savings in a reduction of militarism.

Anyone ever read Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke?

I kind of think that what happens in there is probably the only way we could beat climate change (and other issues that are causing us major problems).

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Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler

Anyone ever read Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke?

I kind of think that what happens in there is probably the only way we could beat climate change (and other issues that are causing us major problems).

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To have Overlords erase humanity and eventually evaporate the earth? Yeah, I guess that would do it.

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Originally Posted by Alan

To have Overlords erase humanity and eventually evaporate the earth? Yeah, I guess that would do it.

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I haven't been watching the SyFy series, so no spoilers.

I did read the book and loved it! Though I obviously had some problems with it.

Though if you remember, the Overlords created a golden age where Earth was a utopia.

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Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler

I haven't been watching the SyFy series, so no spoilers.

I did read the book and loved it! Though I obviously had some problems with it.

Though if you remember, the Overlords created a golden age where Earth was a utopia.

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I haven't watched it either. In the book, the Overlords did create a utopia, but it was short lived. Within a hundred years or so, the earth no longer existed.

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Originally Posted by Alan

I haven't watched it either. In the book, the Overlords did create a utopia, but it was short lived. Within a hundred years or so, the earth no longer existed.

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A hundred years is a long time for a utopia to last.

But my point was that I don't think we have a hope in this universe of not fully destroying the planet for the sake of convenience and/or vanity.

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Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler

A hundred years is a long time for a utopia to last.

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I don't know, a hundred years of loss of individuality and culture may seem much longer than real time might indicate, and that's the type of utopia Clarke wrote of. I'd imagine it more along the lines of the current utopian society in North Korea, which I think is an apt description of any utopia created and maintained by our current Climate Change Warriors.

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Originally Posted by Alan

I don't know, a hundred years of loss of individuality and culture may seem much longer than real time might indicate, and that's the type of utopia Clarke wrote of. I'd imagine it more along the lines of the current utopian society in North Korea, which I think is an apt description of any utopia created and maintained by our current Climate Change Warriors.

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Our current climate change idealists (warriors, as you call them) would probably cite Costa Rica way before North Korea. Seriously.

In the book everyone was able to pursue most forms of meaningful work and hobbies during the golden age. They also had fam, friends, etc. There was no disease or anything either.

They lost religion and war though. And they were blocked from certain knowledge.

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Originally Posted by Alan

I don't know, a hundred years of loss of individuality and culture may seem much longer than real time might indicate, and that's the type of utopia Clarke wrote of. I'd imagine it more along the lines of the current utopian society in North Korea, which I think is an apt description of any utopia created and maintained by our current Climate Change Warriors.

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Alan, I have a similar suspicion of that kind of designed "utopia", but I'm not quite following the link between that and the current crop of climate change warriors. Care to enlighten me a little bit?