What a foolish and uninformed thing to say, in this context.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
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What a foolish and uninformed thing to say, in this context.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
I stand by my statement. I know many people with false positives including my dad. One problem is hospitals will retest a negative but not a positive. They cling to those positives because they get higher reimbursement rates from Medicare., and the facts be damned!Quote:
Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore
Please provide a source for your belief that there are significant false positives from the home tests.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
Does not have to be a self-test. My dad's false positive was done in the hospital.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
But on home tests there is this from the American Society for Microbiology:
https://asm.org/Press-Releases/2021/...V-2-When-Using
A JAMA study found 42% of false positives in PCR tests they looked at:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...%208%2C%202021.
We didn't have any side effects from the booster, other than slightly sore arm for me (same as with a flu shot). We had to wait 15 mins on the Group W Bench to make sure we didn't have a reaction. Here's DH.
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So you got nothing. Thanks. That’s what I figured.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
So it looks like the government might approve a vax for children under 5 that's so ineffective it wouldn't normally get approved, just to shut up all the covidians who keep clamoring for it. (Margaret Brennan is one - she's so annoying - every episode of "Face the Nation" she's harping about this. Total helicopter parent.) sCiEnCe. The benefit will be maybe then the mask mandate on toddlers in NYC will go away.
Just learned this morning that a sibling and spouse tested positive. 2nd time for the spouse. Just mild symptoms at this point as it is early on.
Haven't had my second covid booster yet, but had side effects from both the 2nd regular and my 2nd shingles.
I am not a vaccine naysayer but was surprised too that the efficacy of the kids under 5 shot is so low.
Just learned this week a coworker has the flu. Mild enough so far he still came to work (he works in the warehouse away from other people), but who knows?. One can never be too alarmist. But so far so good, so in true Academy Awards fashion, I want to thank God, vitamin C, hydration, and extra rest that his symptoms are only mild. It could have been so much worse if he had not been protected by .... common sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by happystuff
Kids are now getting adenovirus/hepatitis/liver failure because they were overprotected against exposure to normal germs and their immune systems are weak. So many problems from covidianism.
OMG You Just Made My Day with you Group W refence ..... Alice's Restaurant is the one thing that we listen to and sing before our Thanksgiving meal .Quote:
Originally Posted by rosarugosa
So the idiot nut job view is that lack of interaction with viruses is what’s causing this? Thanks for sharing that with us so that we don’t have to go search it out. I’d ask for sources but since you’re not big on that I’ll just let your wackadoodle stand as it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
Too bad The Journal of the American Medical Association wasn't good enough for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
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Originally Posted by rosarugosa
Thankfully they fixed the questionnaires. Yes, I have a ton of allergies, no, nothing LISTED in the vaccine was among them, but that wasn't in the first shots questionnaires. I had to wait extra time "to make sure I didn't have a allergic reaction".
Felt like showing a bunch of glossy pictures to a blind judge.
Ok. I’ll bite. Post a ****ing link.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
It'll undoubtedly be something taken out of context, or breathlessly misrepresented. As usual.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Jeppy, I don’t think the JAMA article said what you think it said as you reference in post #5524. Read it again and tell me if I am wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
I myself had a hard time with that data and what it was really saying about false positives.
In the Results section it said .05% of tests are false positives. But 42% of positives are false. This might seem like a big discrepancy, but keep in mind if you screen large numbers of asymptomatic people that most tests will be negative. In my state there are many times test positivity rates have been 1% and that includes people who get tested because they are symptomatic. On college campuses I have seen figures around the .05% because they test everyone all the time. And what the JAMA report says is 42% of those positives are bogus.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
As I said, Jeppy is misrepresenting the conclusions. Or didn’t read the whole thing.
Then why don’t you explain it since I’m having a hard time with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
That wasn’t a link about kids with liver disease.I can understand your confusion though. You throw it so many stupid conspiracy theories it must be hard to keep up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
If you dismissed my sources on the first topic, why would I take the time to provide you with sources on the second topic?Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
You are incorrigible.
I didn’t dismiss your source I simply pointed out that your source didn’t address my question to you. I get it. You aren’t really a detail oriented person. I will lower my expectations going forward.
From the Results section:Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
“ All of the false-positive test results from these 2 workplaces were drawn from a single batch of Abbott’s Panbio COVID-19 Ag Rapid Test Device.”
From the Discussion section:
“ The cluster of false-positive results from 1 batch was likely the result of manufacturing issues rather than implementation. These results inform the discussion of whether rapid antigen tests will result in too many false-positives that could overwhelm PCR testing capacity in other settings.1,2 Also, the results demonstrate the importance of having a comprehensive data system to quickly identify potential issues. With the ability to identify batch issues within 24 hours, workers could return to work, problematic test batches could be discarded, and the public health authorities and manufacturer could be informed.”
Jeppy is trying to convince us that this one research letter tells us that 42% of rapid test positives are false positives. This is simply not generally true. Jeppy picked out one result, ignored the authors’ discussion of the data issues and limitations, and engaged in sophistry. Or Jeppy simply did not understand what they read, for whatever reason.
You cannot generalize to all rapid tests based on the results of two single workplaces using the same production batch of tests without digging a bit further. Especially when this result seems out of line…
Covid vaccinations can cause hepatitis:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9021033/
Currently we have a hepatitis outbreak in vaccinated children.
ok, thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
No we don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
https://www.ksat.com/health/2022/04/...sely-at-cases/
The UK data suggests it has nothing to do with COVID-19 or COVID vaccines.
“Very few of the 100 or so children had received any kind of COVID vaccination, and fewer than 20% of them tested positive for COVID,” Barton explained.
Clarification - it is not the children who are vaccinated, but their mothers, and they are breastfeeding:Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
https://theirishsentinel.com/2022/05...nated-mothers/
The stupid, it burns.
I just requested my first free test kits from the government. I was tested a couple of times in a drive through test and was otherwise not too concerned because of general isolation. Now that people are pretending it's all safe now, my worries have elevated. I was somewhat surprised the free kits are still being handed out.
I ordered the free test kits recently too for the exact reason you mentioned. Surprisingly they were here in a few days. Hopefully they will go unused!
I ordered my second batch of nanny G test kits a week ago friday, the day SO tested positive. They came last tuesday and we've used them all. I also ordered a five pack of them from Amazon the same day which we haven't used. We'll keep them in our linen closet until we need them and at some point in the next few days I'll figure out how to apply for reimbursement from Blue Cross. Like both of you I assume that as everyone pretends that everything is back to normal it is inevitable that one of us will get infected again unless we make the decision to (not) party like it's 2020 again.
Keep testing. Since the tests aren't perfect it is indeed inevitable that you will get infected again, if only with a false positive.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Keep putting people at risk by not testing when you get sick. I'm sure the person(people) that you subsequently infect will be old or sick and deserving of their death.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
Because every cold (and colds are coronaviruses) kills people. The morgues are full since masks are no longer required on planes - and there aren't any more unvaccinated people because they all died. Be afraid - be very afraid. Go get a few more boosters to be safe.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Seriously - you might want to check the stats on covid hospitalizations - most of them are now vaccinated people. So much for the prevailing public health narrative to benefit big pharma.
More nonsense, misrepresentation, and downright evil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
Putin would be proud of you.
“A systematic #LongCovid review of nearly 200 studies and over 120,000 participants, reinforces the high frequency of symptoms > 6 months, not linked to severity of acute illness, and potential for marked disability”
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....act_id=4099429
If they are vaxxed, it could actually be side effects from the vaccine, not covid. Most people getting covid are vaxxed.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
It's possible too that it's from fluoridation of water polluting our bodily essences...Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
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