So how much is your insurance going up due to Obamacare?

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Originally Posted by bae

... My grandfather managed to have a lifelong career as a rural mail carrier, things just aren't like that anymore.

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Hey bae, my grandfather was a rural mail carrier, too! During the depression he had a job. My mother always said that sure they did not have much money but her father had A Job and that was the holy grail. She tells the story of her brother sneaking out late one night taking, the family car and nearly wrecking it, and her father was furious because that car represented their family's livelihood.

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Originally Posted by Teacher Terry

I know from first hand experience that you have to move to where the jobs are located. When I finished graduate school I wanted to stay in the Midwest which I loved but no jobs in my field. I ended up with job choices in many states but not located in the Midwest. I moved alone where I did not know a soul for a job and made a life. Bloom where you and a decent job are planted>8)

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I moved for my first job when nationwide unemployment was around 10% and I thought that's just what you had to do, and besides, I wanted to get out of Dodge (i,e, Iowa.)

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Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife

Gotta give you credit once again, Iris. Rob

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But this is essentially a capitalistic idea: take your business to the place that offers you the best value. I don't see anything wrong with that as medical care is essentially a capitalistic endeavor. :) You won't like that, however. :) :)

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Originally Posted by iris lilies

But this is essentially a capitalistic idea: take your business to the place that offers you the best value. I don't see anything wrong with that as medical care is essentially a capitalistic endeavor. :) You won't like that, however. :) :)

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I'm 50/50 on this one. I don't believe health care should be done on a for profit basis and on this one I doubt I'll ever budge. Given that I'm in a country in which human life is not automatically worth access to health care, I have no problem fleeing for health care to another country that gives me a much better deal. I don't see this as being hypocritical but instead as a). basic survival, and b). proof that I love and respect myself. Rob

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Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife

I'm 50/50 on this one. I don't believe health care should be done on a for profit basis and on this one I doubt I'll ever budge. Given that I'm in a country in which human life is not automatically worth access to health care, I have no problem fleeing for health care in another country that gives me a much better deal. I don't see this as being hypocritical but instead as a). basic survival, and b). proof that I love and respect myself. Rob

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I don't see it as being hypocritical, I see you as being a Capitalist!

Back in 1980, when the unemployment rate was 10%, I went to WY and rented a trailer at the time. Many of the workers were living in travel trailers. No one was living in tents. Back then there were many places made available to park a trailer. I'll bet you could find a place in the Dakotas without much problem. But you would have to try.

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Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife

I'm 50/50 on this one. I don't believe health care should be done on a for profit basis and on this one I doubt I'll ever budge. Given that I'm in a country in which human life is not automatically worth access to health care, I have no problem fleeing for health care in another country that gives me a much better deal. I don't see this as being hypocritical but instead as a). basic survival, and b). proof that I love and respect myself. Rob

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You have stated this many times. When are you moving? I would be interested in reading about the process.

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Originally Posted by dmc

Back in 1980, when the unemployment rate was 10%, I went to WY and rented a trailer at the time. Many of the workers were living in travel trailers. No one was living in tents. Back then there were many places made available to park a trailer. I'll bet you could find a place in the Dakotas without much problem. But you would have to try.

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The KOA in Williston, ND is leased through 2022. I know, I went there. Its a different scenario than when we were younger, similar, but different for a lot of reasons not the least of which is the regulatory environment.

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Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife

I don't believe health care should be done on a for profit basis and on this one I doubt I'll ever budge.

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And how would you feel if you just spent $400,000 and 8 years in medical school? What if you and a few of your buddies just spent $100 MILLION building a state of the art clinic to diagnose everything related to, say, heart disease? If there wasn't a financial reward for all that work or all that risk would you still do it?

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And how would you feel if you just spent $400,000 and 8 years in medical school? What if you and a few of your buddies just spent $100 MILLION building a state of the art clinic to diagnose everything related to, say, heart disease? If there wasn't a financial reward for all that work or all that risk would you still do it?

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This is yet ANOTHER issue of American health care I don't know that I'll ever be able to forgive. The necessity for this level of debt to get through medical school is just inexcusable and sets physicians up to think in terms of money and the game that AHC (American Health Care) now is. Rob

To answer your question though, if I had that much of a passion to be a physician, I would realize that it would be working against myself to remain in America for either school or practice at a later date. I would leave. Rob