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That was interesting; thanks for sharing, Bae. We are still taking precautions but are becoming so much in the minority, that I've been wondering if we're been extreme. The article provides me with some reassurance to stay the course.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
I was always masking but have become more lax since receiving all boosters and the flu vaccines. Here in TX few are wearing masks anywhere. We will be going to the hall for Thanksgiving. It does make me pause but the time has come (in my mind) to get back to living. There will be times when I still mask but cannot continue being totally isolated.
Masks were never recommended for RSV pre-covid because adjusting and tugging on the mask led kids to have greater contact between their hands and their faces, spreading the virus. But yeah, let's grasp at ineffective straws because doing something even if it's counterproductive has to better than doing nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
Please don't take medical advice from Yppej.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
I was shocked last week when we went to an appointment at the major cancer center DH goes to. Masks are no longer mandatory but recommended. I would say 30% had n-95 types. Only about 10% had none. I anticipate that non masking will become the norm.
We are visiting mom for Christmas. At 96 and failing we all decided that it was more important to see her than let her not see her family. Since we will be coming from all over she will be at significant risk. Most of us have had Covid. All are vaccinated and boosted if required. It wasn't too difficult of a decision. Dying without seeing her family's faces is what she absolutely does not want and it is only a matter of time.
Isolation is very debilitating to the elderly.
The boss said not everyone can take off at the same time around Thanksgiving.
Employee #1 said he had cancer and was in the hospital. We called patient information to get his room number so we could send a card. They said he wasn't a patient.
Employee #2 called in for two days.
Employee #3 came in for a half day then said, "I think I have covid" and left. Texted the boss claiming he has a positive covid test. Earlier this year he was out 10 days supposedly with covid. We'll see if it's another 10 now. He's salaried so he still gets paid.
Earlier in the fall another guy went on the week + he had approved for his honeymoon, then claimed he had covid and got another week off.
If you have an employer that is gullible you can say you took a home test, never show anyone the results, and get as much time off as you want since people can get covid again and again. Neither vaccines or natural immunity stop it.
If push comes to shove and the employer asks to see the test, you can pour juice or other things on it to get a positive. Kids figured out how to do this when they wanted to miss school.
Covid, the excuse that keeps on giving.
Rumor was that there were 2 suicides in ?st. Louis at one of the posh step-down senior facilities during the height of COvid. I am not sure how true that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere
yes, the isolation was very hard on senior citizens in care.
As an asthmatic, I think I am more likely to die of the common cold virus, RSV or the flu than Covid. I have all the shots I can get and still got the common cold. Thought about going to the ER but got a little better. Got it from husband so wearing a mask would likely have not helped.
"In care" must be the operative qualifier here. As an introvert, I can't relate.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
And how easy is it for people "in care" to commit suicide?
I’m glad you asked that question Jane because I omitted the grizzly details.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
Supposedly both of these elderly gentleman lept from their upper level floors.
Rather dramatic, eh? That’s why I really wonder if it’s true.
How Putinesque!Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
Just learned that a dear professional colleague passed away from covid over the weekend. He was my age but immune compromised for the last decade because of an organ transplant. His docs had recommended multiple vaccinations to try and build up his immune system, which he did, but apparently it didn’t work.
I’m heartbroken. He was doing fine two months ago when I last saw him. Hug your loved ones. You never know what tomorrow may bring.
I am so sorry, jp1. I saw what Covid did in my parents' assisted living, and the isolation, fear, and hopelessness has been the worst part of this disease.
I am sorry about your friend.
So the latest is we are putting restrictions on travellers from China, because that worked so well last time :(
Went for a walk today in the park. This is the first time since I contracted covid. It surprised me on how many people asked me where I had been. It is 80 degrees and very windy here today (very pleasant). I am keeping my distance from people and dogs in case I am still infectious. I am still a little tired and have a few cold-like symptoms but doing fairly well. Hopefully, back to normal next week?
Fingers crossed, and I am so glad to hear you are up and about!Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
My recovery was pretty quick too and my taste/smell is mostly back. Have noticed a handful of people at our park wearing masks and/or veering six feet away when they get close. Just like the good old days...
I just tested positive this morning. Yesterday was my errand day in Santa Fe and about halfway through running around I started feeling a bit off, like I was coming down with a head cold. Bad body aches last night when I went to bed but I chalked it off to my first workout in a week at the gym. This morning I felt crappy and uninterested in doing anything so my husband insisted I take a test. After successfully dodging it the past few years I was a little shocked when that pink line showed up!
Nothing too bad so far - headache, sinus congestion, tiredness, lack of appetite (which is fine with me as I need to lose a few pounds). No official fever though, but with me it's hard to tell. My normal temperature is usually 96-97, but I've had some sweats and chills.
I am sorry about your colleague, JP.
I'm glad you are having smooth recoveries, FO and PT. I wish the same for you, SQ.
A friend and her husband just got their fifth shot. Five! The mind reels.
Well would it just become an annual thing though? Like a flu shot? One more thing to sell us?Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
I took a Covid test this morning since I had a respiratory thing hit me yesterday even though it seemed more like allergies than anything else. It was negative.
Thank you. Hope you are doing well too!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tybee
When I find myself coming down with a respiratory bug, I generally take a hit of saline spray, a vitamin C tablet, and some zinc. Maybe it's the placebo effect (which I'm an enthusiastic supporter of), but it works every time.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
I imagine we'll be exhorted to get COVID shots every year, though like flu shots, they'll rarely catch up with the current strain in play. Pharma gets its money, one way or the other--or by hook or by crook, you might say.
So sorry for the loss of your friend, jp.
Glad to hear those who had tested positive recently are recovering.
One of my kids just tested positive this morning. Symptomatic. So far no one else has tested positive. I'm still on my course of antibiotics for my sinus infection, etc., so don't know if that will make a difference or not.
Hope you feel better soon happy…. and no one else gets sick!
I've had all 5 vaccines as well. The previous vaccines provided only a few months immunity; the most recent vaccine is predicted to provide a years' immunity. The goal for next year is a combo flu/COVID vaccine in the fall, which would provide some immunity for the winter season, when all respiratory viruses peak. Most years the flu vaccine is right on target for the predicted strains, and the U.S. has approx. 20,000 - 30,000 deaths annually from complications from the flu. On the years when the strain is unexpected, the deaths can rise as high as 60,000 annually. Covid's mortality rate is, of course, much higher. I'll be getting the flu/COVID booster next fall as well. I'm a big fan of pro-activity in health, including preventative screenings & vaccines. My reasoning is demonstrated in the "Penn and Teller on Vaccinations" short cliip (about 1 1/2 minutes) on Youtube. I'm not tech-savvy enough to link it here. I hope and pray we will never see another time when COVID was as bad as it was when it first hit, when we had no vaccines and no treatments.
Dax Tejera is the latest young person to die suddenly of a heart attack.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/enter...7/10952405002/
That was good, Befree! Here is a link: https://youtu.be/RfdZTZQvuCoQuote:
Originally Posted by befree
"It’s estimated that up to 11% of Americans catch the flu virus each year — with some experiencing more severe symptoms and requiring hospitalization.
In recent years, the flu shot has provided around 43% protection against disease.
However, year-to-year, that level has ranged widely: from 60% in the 2010-2011 flu season to 19% in the 2014-2015 flu season." (Healthline)
I'm being proactive against the negligible chance of catching a serious case of the flu by limiting my exposure.
I could get some mixed messages from the mainstream news. but my impression from what they've seen with the mRNA vaccines is that it isn't all that effective in preventing a symptomatic infection after just a couple or few months, especially with evolving variants. It is effective at preventing severe illness, relative to unvaccinated people, for several or many months yet to be determined. I suspect the same or similar could be true of the flu vaccine.
The goal at this point is to use mRNA technology to make both flu and covid vaccines that are broadly effective against most variants of the two virus types. The researchers seem to think that doing so for the flu will actually be more difficult because they think the most likely approach for that is a vaccine that targets most of the main H strains (a vaccine that is effective against h1n42 is equally effective against h1n21, etc. The problem is that there are something like 24 different H strains of flu virus and each has to be targeted individually by any vaccine that will protect against them all.). For the universal covid vaccine the plan at this point is to just target a part of the virus that has proven more stable across all the variants, which is believed to be actually an easier task since it requires developing a vaccine that targets one specific thing. Theoretically no more difficult than how the original covid vaccines targeted the original spike protein.
Nice to know I'm not the only one here who questions the covid narrative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
My father passed away in 22 after a long battle with diabetes. He death certificate says death by covid. My mother,as well as myself found this offensive. Apparently, just before his death, he tested positive for covid.
I am convinced that the actual covid death count in this country has been exaggerated for the financial benefit of the healthcare industry. I'm also convinced that covid vaccine injuries have been underreported.
Disclaimer: I barely made it through high school. I'm not a healthcare provider, and neither is Bill Gates.
I found this interesting from the Mayo Clinic, about the different types of Covid vaccines:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/art-20506465
I do not want any more mRNA vaccines and I would not get a combination flu/Covid vaccine. But that's just me.
So sorry for your loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by cx3
I guess my question is - might your father still be alive battling diabetes if he hadn't caught covid? If the answer is "no", then fine. But if the answer is "yes" or even "maybe", then - in my opinion - it is a death by covid.
Disclaimer: I'm not a healthcare provider either and, again, this is just my opinion.
Our government in its infinate wisdom incentivized the recording of COVID as means of death because it gave everyone $$$ for funeral expenses for .cOVID victims.Quote:
Originally Posted by cx3
Our friend had the same thing happen…father in his 90’s in nursing home with multiple health problems got Covid, recovered, they made him take a Covid shot, he died very soon after. Likely covid shot had nothing to do with his death but they put “Covid” as means of death. His family was like you, skeptical of the whole Covid charade.
I can't remember when my older relatives have passed away, what the cause of death was officially listed as, but it seem to me like there was one primary cause of death and possibly a listing of other complications. There is usually one thing that pushes people with multiple health problems over the edge and that's what gets list as official. I don't see a big problem with that.
From what I have read, heart problems as a result of the mRNA shots is uncommon among young people and even more rare in older people. And both are treatable and rarely fatal. Yet I have heard of a few anecdotal reports of people dying from heart problems related to the covid shots. I'm not sure how of that I buy and how much is unrelated coincidence. Or if in those cases there were other issues that contributed to things, just like covid may exacerbate other serious health issues.
What's official and what are the confounding issues.
How is this related to covid?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
It would be worthwhile to investigate if the excess cardiac (myocarditis/pericarditis) problems and blood clots are more associated with COVID or the COVID vaccine, at least.
It would be worthwhile to investigate the lack of critical thinking skills possessed by large segments of the population.
That is interesting about the death certificate of your friend's father. My dad's was odd also--he died seven days after getting the Covid shot. I saw the first one the doctor wrote, and it said, natural causes. Then I saw one somewhere else--filed with the court, I think? And it said died from cancer. I don't know who changes these or why.