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Myocarditis is a known side effect of the mRNA vaccines and correlates with testosterone levels, so young males are disproportionately dying of it. In September New York Presbyterian Hospital even ran ad ad about myocarditis in children because it is becoming so common.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
Lots of people have critical thinking skills. If they are critical of something they think they possess more skills after watching a few random youtube videos than people who have dedicated their lifetimes to studying a subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
Myocarditis also occurs more frequently in covid patients.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7035e5.htm
Let's not normalize heart attacks in children. Respiratory viruses don't do that.
Today a good friend of a good friend was running along the Portland waterfront with her usual jogging partner (female, 61), who, after asking to sit down for a moment, stood up, keeled over, and couldn't be resuscitated. I suppose fit 61-year old women die every day, but it's troubling.
Amid the snark from people whose critical thinking skills are obviously more advanced than mine, I would like to know if the virus, the vaccine, or both might be implicated here, and--if so--what we can do about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by herbgeek
I've responded to cardiac events, pre-covid, for people in their 20s and 30s.
Of course--often with undiagnosed medical conditions, drug interactions/overdoses, etc. I just want to know if this is a new phenomenon. That's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
A woman in my building lost all her hair after getting her Covid shot. They tried to bring it back with various treatments but nothing worked. As of now I have had 3 with the last being 10/21. Unless something drastic happens I am done. I think it will be 10-20 years before we really know all the side effects of the vaccine. No doubt they saved people’s lives but may have taken them as well.
I've had three of the vaccine shots and decided against the fourth booster after a sibling and several of their kids responded negatively to the fourth (suddenly passing out with only seconds notice). Did lose several people I knew to COVID, some well, others not as much (service tech we used died along with his wife leaving a 10 year old behind in 2020). I had hoped I was lucky.
Last Wednesday night I felt what was normally allergy symptoms but the wrong time of the year for them. I knew another sibling we had just seen over Christmas was said to be getting the flu, so I assumed I caught that. Still tested to be on the safe side and tested positive last Thursday morning. Came home to quarantine and proceeded to spend most of the next three days unconscious more then awake and having breathing difficulties. Over the weekend, sibling had to rush m-i-l to hospital for emergency surgery, and she didn't make it, then flu turned into Covid.
Today was the first day in the shower, up and really moving about, laundry, house cleaning, etc. I thought I was going to end up in the hospital and on O2.
Friend reports the decedent had absolutely no history of heart or lung problems and had recently undergone a complete physical, which indicated arthritis, but everything else was fine. RIP, Lori.
Good grief! I'm glad you're on the mend. As my friend remarked, 2023 is off to a bad, bad start!Quote:
Originally Posted by ToomuchStuff
Have any of the past recent years started off good?Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
Damar Hamlin is the latest person to suddenly collapse of cardiac arrest. A football hit doesn't normally result in this.
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full...cep.111.962712Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
Hope you feel better soon TMS!
I agree bae. Where you and I differ is in our sources from which we begin our critical thinking processes. As for myself, I've long had a general mistrust of government and other established institutions.Granted, I concede that your intelligence far exceeds my own.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
Over the years, I've always respected your deep thinking opinions. It shocks me that we find ourselves polar opposites on this particular topic.
TMS: Glad you are on the mend!
Hope you are back to a hundred percent soon, Toomuchstuff!
Joe Biden in the White House?Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
My brother, a respiratory therapist with decades of experience, had a covid booster and within 2-3 days experienced a myocarditis incident, briefly hospitalized.
He said he will not take another Covid MRNA vaccine. Since he doesn’t do direct patient care but works in a management/IT position, he won’t have to take it to keep a job.
Jane, do you know if the woman that died jogging had a recent Covid shot?
I asked, but didn't get a reply. Friend probably doesn't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teacher Terry
I've long believed that questioning authority is a hallmark of critical thinking. But what do I know. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by cx3
Yesterday on my sixth day of Covid, I retested myself and was still positive. My biggest symptom is still fatigue, with a bit of sneezing and stuffed up head. According to the CDC, it is okay for me to go out in the public if I am masked up (which I do anyway). I really need to get to the grocery store and to pick up a book I reserved at the library. It'll be nice to get out for a bit; that with the drive to Santa Fe and back will tucker me out for the rest of the day, I'm sure.
My next work day is scheduled for Sunday and Monday. Hopefully I will feel up to sitting in that uncomfortable wooden chair for 7 hours.
there is official "authority" the government or whatever (and they have not been great at handling covid). And then there are thousands of grifters making money off of "questioning authority" that one also has to be wary of. Maybe the whole "question authority" thing worked better when there was more of a consensus reality to question. Now one is as likely to "question authority" and fall for ever bigger nonsense and someone is making money off it. Ok the point is not don't question authority or something but yea it's a vipers den out there.Quote:
I've long believed that questioning authority is a hallmark of critical thinking. But what do I know.
On vaccines the choice was take our chances on the vaccine (billions admistered worldwide) or take our chances on the virus unvaxed. Going back to 2019 when covid didn't exist wasn't a choice (of course it would be preferable) And few could completely for certain avoid both vaxes and covid exposure (not everyone has had covid but almost everyone has potentially had exposure). And the virus unvaxed, yea nah pass.
Given the virulence of the virus circa 2019, my age and condition, gambling on the vaccine seemed like a wise choice for me. Not being clairvoyant, I couldn't see that COVID would mutate into a milder form and that I could have waited it out at home for as long as it took. And I still don't regret getting the (non mRNA) J&J shot. But I respect other people's decisions to wait and see, bolster their immune systems, avoid crowds, and take other precautions, both to protect themselves and others. It's always wise to wait until a new drug has been on the market for a few years before choosing to take it, and I believe the same is true for vaccines. But it seemed in the moment we didn't have that luxury.Quote:
Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore
I will never stop questioning authority.
I am old and vulnerable to serious Covid effects. But I do not expect the world to stop spinning and shut down to protect me. I expect ME to be the primary protector of ME.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
In general, I agree--but some accommodations, like encouraging work from home, seemed like prudent and practical ways to protect the vulnerable, and not-so vulnerable.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
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Originally Posted by SiouzQ.
Where exactly do you find actual current guidelines? The CDC website kind of sucks and I hear too many different answers. (and google is pulling up stuff that will date back to 2019)
I found it on the New Mexico DOH, updated 11/22/22
https://cv.nmhealth.org/how-to-isolate-when-positive/
I find it silly that out the hundreds of viruses, flus, colds etc out there, there's only one you're supposed to quarantine for though all make the average person about as sick as the others.
I find it silly that people think that a virus that is still killing 400 Americans daily on average, or 145,000/year is on par with colds that kill few people each year or even flu, which in the worst of the past 10 years killed around 52,000 people. The normalization of that level of death is depressing.
Most flu deaths are reported as pneumonia deaths instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Let's shut down the hospitals for all but covid cases. Let's scare people so even when they reopen they don't go for cancer screenings. Let's pump them with vaccines that cause heart problems. Let's isolate them so depression, suicide attempts, and addiction rates soar. Let's lock them down with their abusers. Let's close the schools where most child abuse is detected and where many LGBTQIA+ youth find much needed support. Only covid this one illness matters or you are a heartless grandma killer, you disgusting viral vector who wants to interact with other human beings in person, how dare you? Meanwhile JP stands for jet plane as he flies around the country.
Lets bring out a sad sack laundry list of oldie moldy complaints from the past that largely don't exist anymore because that's all our pathetic selves have to justify our lack of concern for the frail among us. Channeling one's inner Dan Patrick isn't a good look for anybody.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
Using the CDC's own data; Sep21 covid deaths 77% among unvaxed, 23% vaxed. By Aug 22 deaths 42% unvaxed, 58% vaxed to fully vaxed.. Anyone see a pattern here?Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Also unrelated to CDC, 2020 29 European soccer players collapsed on field from a cardiac issues. 2021 and 2022 1598 players collapsed on field from cardiac issues, over 1100 deaths. What could possibly have changed from 2020 to 2021, any guesses?
Any Monday Night Football fans here?
I'm sure the Ministry of Truth fact checkers are on the case.
My gosh people, how can anyone defend this great human experimental disaster at this point?
I live in a county that’s 99% fully vaxxed. If anyone dies from covid here they will be vaxxed. Across the US as a whole 81% of people have gotten at least one dose. So yes, I see a pattern here. When the vast majority of people have gotten vaccinated it’s likely that deaths will be mainly among vaccinated people.
But I’m not sure what any of this has to do with my previous post. If you are cool with 400 Americans dying day after day from covid and don’t want to take any steps to try to not add someone who has the misfortune of coming near you when you are sick to that statistic, then great, be like yppej and rock on with your deadly self. Personally I will continue to test myself when I feel sick and stay the **** home if I test positive. Because I’m not an asshole.
jp1 we may have to agree to disagree on that last sentence.
Cx3 it's not just soccer and football, but tennis :
https://thelibertydaily.com/buried-b...sh-miami-open/
Novak Djokovic is one smart man.