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So sorry, happy! Feel better soon!
Hoping you both have mild cases Happy. I took the weight loss route figuring it was best in many ways and my health is much better. I am glad that the newer versions of Covid aren’t attacking the respiratory system as I have asthma. Unless required I am done with masks too. Mainly because my allergies are bad year round so have to frequently pull it down to blow my nose.
Thanks, everyone. We are both home from work for the week and isolating.
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Originally Posted by happystuff
Bummer. Best wishes for a speedy recovery!
It does sort of seem inevitable we may all get it eventually, even if a person is vaccinated and has a mild case. I'm anticipating my number will come up some day.
Hopefully people have mild cases.
I go the masks and frequent vaxes route though I think there are diminishing returns after 3 vaxes. I don't stress much like early in the pandemic. I don't actually get a weeks worth of sick days a year, I only get 3 sick days a year (as mandated by the state of California, I'd probably get no paid sick time at all if the state didn't' mandate it). This is just a state sick leave law that well predates covid. I think covid specific sick time that govt mandated is long gone? So I'd take time off but it would be from my rather limited vacation time of course.
Hoping everyone has a mild case, as is the rule these days.
Oh my! My wife asked me if I had heard of the 6 yr old girl who had died suddenly. I had not so I looked online, myocarditis to blame, very sad. Even worse when I discovered my wife was actually referring to different event. I can't keep track of all the kids dropping dead. Being someone who has lost a child myself, I grieve for these parents.
Do a quick search engine search for yourselves. I wonder what could possiblly be causing all this sudden death in our youth?
Is it “sudden death in our youth” though?Quote:
Originally Posted by cx3
I only hope this issue is being objectively measured by the sciencey scientists who science, not the spin doctors who pick and choose their “science” to bludgeon us, the unwashed public, with their lofty dictims.
I do not know how much support off-message researchers have to study health problems related to Covid vaccine, but I fear there is academic derision for it and worse, no $$$.
I think it is entirely possible that the science based outliers who keep floating legitimate concerns about The government’s actions and interpretations of the science of Covid will, in fact, push the government toward truth. And the truth may be entirely what they have been saying all along.But it may not be. Imma thinking the latter.
when the history of Covid is written it will say “Our government did the best they could with the information they had” when that is not entirely true.
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Originally Posted by iris lilies
Not true… especially in trump’s case. trump knew early on and let many die needlessly.
…And time allowed Congress persons to shift their personal investments into pandemic friendly investments, and then passing legislation to keep the pandemic lockdowns/investment friendly for them and their supporters.Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
Then there’s the ongoing shady but arrogant proclamations of Anthony Fauci, Maybe not really a problem but who knows.
https://www.congress.gov/117/meeting...1201-SD004.pdf
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Weird, the url was Congress.gov but article imbedded in it seems to be from Newsweek.Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
well, there are lots of articles out there about this subject.
I am listening to an audiobook, Apollo's Arrow, written by an M.D. virologist, before vaccines had come into use. He makes a strong case for not "mixing" indoors with people (who may be asymptomatic and spreading the virus). He says masks reduce transmission by intercepting some of the droplets coming out of the wearer's mouth and nose, especially when sneezing, yelling, or talking. So, more people wearing masks reduces the spread. "My mask protects YOU. Your mask protects ME."Quote:
Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore
During the "Spanish Flu" epidemic, he says masking was quite readily accepted by the mainstreet American public... as can be seen in photographs from that era. But today there is resistance to wearing a mask.
Limiting my mixing and wearing a mask indoors seems like a reasonable precaution to me (along with vaccines and boosters). A dividend is that in addition to not getting a case of COVID, I have not had a cold or flu in over 2 years... not even a sniffle.
Stay safe.
DP you could have had covid and not known. Some people are completely asymptomatic.
I will admit to having grown lax in my masking, but will now be resuming more stringent personal wearing criteria. I have to wear a mask at work for the upcoming week - part of the protocols for returning to work. Still have congestion, etc. so it is going to be interesting. I anticipate moving much slower to get the job done.Quote:
Originally Posted by dado potato
DH and I are taking similar precautions (also hand sanitation) with similar results. I've had lots of experience with head colds over the years, and I've probably averaged 2 per year for most of my life. I haven't had one since 2019, so that's adequate proof for me that these precautions are protecting me from viral transmissions.Quote:
Originally Posted by dado potato
Think how great it would be if you were a hermit and avoided people all together.Quote:
Originally Posted by rosarugosa
That certainly has it's appealing aspects, but the precautions I take enable me to live my life without going to extremes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
My morning news is claiming the Golden Globes was a super spreader event and named a number of stars who have come down with covid. Avoiding large indoor crowds doesn't impact my life style too much.
My husband says he is going back to masking in public. I can't take it so I'll just stay away from people again. I have to mask at doctor's appointments, hospital, and mom's nursing home, so those are pretty much only places I go.
The customer who had a heart attack came in again the other day. He hasn't been able to return to work because he needs a doctor's note and he fired his cardiologist for requiring him to wear a mask. So he is just doing odd jobs to get by.
He also realizes without medical care he could die so he has been checking out cemetery options including one town that offers green burials, just in case he goes.
Made me think of - no, I will not surrender to you and your demands, today is a good day to die.
Made me think that a paper mask they hand out for free is a dumb choice of a hill to die on.
A couple of my news sources are saying the FDA may revise their vaccination recommendations to once a year like the flu shot. I've pretty much followed their recommendations so far and it seems like a change in perspective from their seemingly urgent calls to become a human pin cushion. I must be one of the few left who has not returned to pre-covid activity and still avoid crowds indoors. I cancelled out on a couple of holiday gatherings thinking there would be some sort of winter surge, but my county and most of the state has been in the low level of community spread all winter. I still hear of people getting covid, but most seem to not get especially sick. I'm still evaluating, I guess.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/23/h...sters-fda.html
If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear, does it make a sound?
If we stop obsessively testing people for covid, do winter surges go away?
What I get is that so many people have home test kits, that they test positive but it doesn't get recorded through any formal system. There are probably fringe groups with a different take. So I could suppose that any reporting of cases is probably a little more than worthless. Hospitalizations seems like a better number, but it just didn't happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
yes, agreed. I don’t know anyone who has tested positive and got through the illness with no trouble actually reporting it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogar
hospital admissions number seem more internally consistent. I guess. There are plenty of people who are admitted for a health problem and they also happen to have Covid but I doubt that is a big number.???
The 7 day average of covid deaths in the US is 569. That's over 207,000 per year if that keeps up. It's kind of sad that that isn't making a sound, but you're right. The majority of americans don't give a **** that that many people are still dying of covid every day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
Of covid or with covid?Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
You tell me oh great conspiracist. I'd be happy to look at whatever sources you care to share that confirm your bias.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
In my own state only a third of those hospitalized with covid are hospitalized due to covid (most recent Mass Dept of Public Health weekly dashboard). You can search out the death stats, which should be comparable.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Since you’re so certain of this I’m sure you have a link handy.
You don't have the right to assign me homework. Do your own research. You can't refute me because you haven't.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
That's...not how things work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
Generally, the burden of providing evidence for a claim falls on the person making the claim, and not on their poor audience.
Perhaps I should introduce you to the guy on Facebook that tried to explain to me that if California built too many reservoirs the Pacific Ocean would stop evaporating. He didn’t want to show me links either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
https://schoolsweek.co.uk/deliveries...ng%20equipment.
Safe and effective
Iris Lilies has posted before about the covid death benefit. It is inflating "covid" deaths. Here is an article on it from mainstream media. You're welcome JP.
https://www.newsweek.com/downsides-f...pinion-1776181
I'm not getting your point Yppej. Dying with covid still means the person had covid. You seem to think this is "over reporting". And millions of people get covid, test at home and don't report the results to anyone collecting official statistics, so there's a universe of numbers not in the official results. Where are you going with this?
People aren't dropping dead of covid in the numbers JP reports. They are dying of other things like cancer, heart attacks, accidents, overdoses, and it's attributed to covid so hospitals can get larger Medicare reimbursements and people can get free funerals. What's next? Someone killed by the police like Tyre Nichols is found to have covid and it's a "covid death"?Quote:
Originally Posted by herbgeek
As of 1/27/2023 the global count of reported COVID cases is 669,949,863 and the number of deaths is 6,821,462.
Seven countries with cases numbering more than 30 million, ranked by number of COVID deaths:
1. USA cases 102,260,961 deaths 1,107,559
2. Brazil cases 36,768,677 deaths 696,603
3. India cases 44,683,661 deaths 530,739
4. Germany cases 37,728,155 deaths 165,314
5. France cases 39,708,282 deaths 165,077
6. Japan cases 32,386,992 deaths 67,058
7. S. Korea cases 30,107,363 deaths 33,332
Source: Johns Hopkins University Center for Systems Science and Engineering
And for years some countries like North Korea had no covid. Imagine that!Quote:
Originally Posted by dado potato