As we're finding out now, with more and more health (and other) professionals speaking out on the overall mismanagement of the pandemic. https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-dec...ng-11674400955Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
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As we're finding out now, with more and more health (and other) professionals speaking out on the overall mismanagement of the pandemic. https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-dec...ng-11674400955Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
And yet no one has been held accountable.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
And I'm sure no one ever will be. As we all see, every day, the rich and/or powerful never are.
Since the medical facilities that I've been in recently still require or encourage masks, I assume there is another side of the argument from some medical experts or no one has told them. It's not an issue for me.
I have birded with some talented birders and there is a humorous adage that when a bird that is difficult to identify flies by, it is wise to wait to call the species until it's out of sight.
You are pretty much right there Bobby.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlebittybobby
The House will do some investigations of prominent people like Fauci, who in court depositions is already saying he can't recall anything, but nothing will happen to the lower level tyrants. I continue to work to replace the ones in my local government with limited success. One sent a nasty email about me saying I was "a sad, pitiful excuse for a citizen not worth the time of day" and saying I "disgust" her.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
Now there's a professional observation. Jeez.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
hunh, what a sad pitiful excuse for a government official, and I find her interaction with you disgusting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
TY.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
Nuclear physicists are experts on how masks work or don't work for blocking viruses? I'd be curious how those two seemingly dissimilar fields of medicine intersect.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
Haha yes but still. She reads The Science and told me often why the masks are not especially effective for virus, and of course, an ill fitting or partially fitting mask is just social signalling.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
It doesn't take rocket scientist to figure that if mask limit the spread of aerosol droplets, and covid is spread but such droplets, that they help. The Mayo clinic is still requiring mask indoors. Another case of leading medical professionals not getting the news? I wonder how the anti-masks people would fell about a surgery where none of the medical people wore masks.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abg6296
Masks worn during surgery are to protect the medical personnel from blood spurting onto them when they cut into the person. It's not to stop airborne viruses. No patients wore masks during surgery pre-covid. Also, covid is airborne, not spread via droplets. That's why we no longer spray down surfaces with disinfectant. Your thinking is out of date and unscientific.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogar
Thanks. It brings so many issues. Luckily the medical censorship law in California was just defeated.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
That said, having read several studies that contradict that one, I'll still wear my well-fitting mask when it seems prudent. :~)
I have strong suspicions on where airborne virus spread originates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
https://www.cdc.gov/socialmedia/synd...80/403327.html
From what I have read it seems like sick people should wear masks as to not spread their germs but it’s pointless for healthy people. Also some doctor’s offices require masks and some don’t here so obviously even medical professionals can’t agree on the science.
Yppej, I find that official’s description of you disgusting and unprofessional. It’s an elected official’s job to listen to her constituents and treat everyone with respect. I think that they forget that they are elected servants supposedly to represent our best interests. Ugh!!
Thank you TT, though she was not elected but appointed. We tried to get that position elected and failed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teacher Terry
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...P81aZ61GD_vpEo
Yet another athlete, in the prime of his life drops dead on the field of play.
It boggles my mind that many of you still refuse to make the connection.
It's literally every week, you just have to search.
Haha I heard this yesterday and thought of you.Quote:
Originally Posted by cx3
I read the article carefully. No where does it say this player was autopsied for myocardial infection, or does it even it say he was recently vaccinated with COVID.
Will COVID vaccinations be blamed for all athlete deaths in all coming years?
Since most of these athletes were forced to vax to play, YES I will continue to blame the governing bodies.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
That says it all.. Obviously, there is little or no connection. There may be exceptions but to hold all as true is redundant.Quote:
Originally Posted by cx3
Vaxed athletes should feel a little safer here in Indiana. The State Senate unanimously passed a bill that requires AED's to be available at sporting events.
So.Quote:
Originally Posted by cx3
We've had ambulances, EMTs, paramedics, and AEDs at every sporting event in my community for....decades.
Has nothing to do with Covid.
Sorry, what is an AED? I know what an IED is, as a friend survived one, but Explosive device just keeps in my head with this one.
AED: automated external defibrillator. They're pretty cool, they can walk even an untrained person through the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToomuchStuff
Exactly bae. This was complete political posturing. Many voters are concerned by what they are seeing going on around them. All those State senators had to have known this bill would not be very benifical in a practical sense. They also knew it would be political suicide to vote against it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
Face the Nation today mentioned girls pushed into being child brides because of the impact of covid lockdowns, something some of you all pooh poohed.
What? How did Covid lockdowns cause child brides?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
Families were impoverished, could not feed their daughters, and sold them as child brides so 1) the husband would have to feed her and 2) they would get some money to feed the rest of the family.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
We are talking about 3rd world cultures here?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
While not about child brides I recommend The Rebel and the Thief a pandemic novel set in AsiaQuote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
Interesting development. WHO is altering their guidance on vaccinating children. Why? Is it possible the vaccine is not as safe and effective as originally promised?
https://www.who.int/news/item/28-03-...ation-guidance
This was already the case in most of Europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by cx3
Apparently covid is officially over, even in California. I woke up this morning to an alert on my phone that the state’s notification system for covid exposure has been shut down. I’d frankly forgotten about it. I was notified 3 times and didn’t get sick those times. And the two times I spent a lot of time near an infected person who I knew was participating in the system (including SO, who I live with of course) and who both reported their infections because they got prescriptions to paclovid it did not notify me.
I've had a relative in and out of medical facilities and masks are still common among the much of staff and some visitors. Relative picked it up in a rehabilitation place and I got it there also as there was a small outbreak, just a few weeks ago. I'd not had it before. My doctor immediately prescribed Paxlovid. I'm undecided on timing for another booster, which I guess is becoming available. I've not seen the most recent recommendations.
The news said our hospital occupancy from covid was some all time low, but I caught a media comment that covid mortalities were still twice those from flu.
My mother's nursing home just lifted the mask requirement for visitors last week. Hallelujah.
My sister in law just got Covid in Jordan. She said she had had five shots total, including boosters.
My favorite podcaster apologized from his raspy voice due to recent covid. We've had a pretty good break from things, but with school starting back and people starting to be inside more, it's probably time to think about another booster. At least for us seniors at risk. I understand there will be some new guidelines with an updated vaccine coming out soon.
How easy we forget. There could be a new lack of population immunity since it's been a while for infections and vaccinations and their given immunities? Or maybe it will be a big nothing burger?
Apparently there’s a bug surge happening in San Diego. At least if my sister’s friends are representative. Fortunately they are all vaxxed and/or previously exposed so none are having dangerous cases. Haven’t heard anything similar here. At least among our friends I don’t know anyone who has had it recently. I’m about to start my big work travel season so I’ll be getting the new booster once available.