Getting involved in Libya

Speaking of Libya....I think I'm going to get offline and go and find a wall to pound my head against.......what kind of an ignorant country do we live in anyway, when elected LEADERS are so willfully ignorant. How can we possibly chart any cogent path through the difficulties that face the world with people like this guy in it? AARRRGGGHHHHH I've got to take a vacation from current events...... (quote from Talking Points Memo, original story from the Scranton PA Times-Tribune) LC

"The old joke goes that most people can't find whatever country the United States is at war with on a map.

Same seems to be true for Rep. Tom Marino (R-PA), a freshman congressman who also sits on the House Foreign Affairs Committee. He's quoted in the Times-Tribune questioning President Obama's Libya strategy, and lack of deference to Congress.

"The bottom line is I wish the president would have told us, talked to Congress about what is the plan. Is there a plan? Is the mission to take Gadhafi out?" Mr. Marino asked.... "Where does it stop?" he said. "Do we go into Africa next? I don't want to sound callous or cold, but this could go on indefinitely around the world."

Yes, Libya is in Africa.

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Originally Posted by Zigzagman

Same here, Free. I am actually pretty disgusted in general. I personally do not think that this is what people that voted on Obama wanted in terms of "hope and change".

I am for workers, social justice, women's right to choose, gays are not a problem with me, I consider religion mostly hocus pocus, and against killing people in the name of foreign policy, and just cannot see myself voting for any conservative and their agenda.

I worry that Pres. Obama does not base his decisions on principle but rather is more like a Clinton and is willing to whatever it takes to get re-elected. What are people like myself to do?

I never in my wildest dreams would have thought that this would be what we would get after the decade of "W" ?

I guess I am really naive - may the lord of the sky bless our frigging souls - something does not smell right.

I felt this same way after returning to the states after Vietnam - and it has been pretty much down hill since.

I think we have "lost our way":sick:

Peace

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I've been reading this whole discussion and find I truly agree with you. My heart is sore and my anger level is high due to the disappointment in the choices our President has made. Just what does the Pentagon do to these men to make them lose their way? Surely the Presidents do not go into office hoping to have a war. But, it happens every time. I thought Obama would be different. Sorry for us that he isn't. The expense appalls me, the way it affects us as a people sickens me. War is NOT the answer and I love your protesting against the next one.

As per usual I'll just beat the oil drum. Oil is the one resource that wars are currently being fought over. Water and food are coming, but for now its oil. The US still uses over 1/4 of the world's oil and we still only have less than 5%. Libya has the largest reserves in Africa. If A=B and B=C, then...

The scope is beyond simple politics. Mr. Obama probably found out that, by virtue of his position, he is necessarily in bed with the same interests that his predecessors were. I think he is a man of high ideals undergoing a pretty significant reality check.