2020 Presidential Candidates

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

Is there any evidence that military personnel have been deployed to any of these places?

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Who knows. Maybe if they weren’t cosplay cops we’d know one way or the other. We do, however, know that they are agents of the federal government engaged in policing not related to federal laws or protecting federal assets. And we know that they are attacking people for doing nothing more than exercising their first amendment rights.

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Originally Posted by jp1

Who knows. Maybe if they weren’t cosplay cops we’d know one way or the other. We do, however, know that they are agents of the federal government engaged in policing not related to federal laws or protecting federal assets. And we know that they are attacking people for doing nothing more than exercising their first amendment rights.

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If you’re going to accuse someone of conduct unbecoming a soldier, shouldn’t it matter if they actually are a soldier or not?

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

If you’re going to accuse someone of conduct unbecoming a soldier, shouldn’t it matter if they actually are a soldier or not?

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And if you're going to give someone policing authority shouldn't you have them wear uniforms and badges so that their misconduct can be correctly attributed to them and their organization?

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Originally Posted by jp1

And if you're going to give someone policing authority shouldn't you have them wear uniforms and badges so that their misconduct can be correctly attributed to them and their organization?

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Yes. At least to the extent that you can identify the agency they belong to and some kind of individual identifying number.

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Originally Posted by Alan

Are you implying that the US Military has been activated against citizens?

Looks that way.

The United States Armed Forces[10] are the military forces of the United States. It consists of the Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force, Space Force, and Coast Guard.[11][12] The president of the United States is the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces and forms military policy with the Department of Defense (DoD) and Department of Homeland Security (DHS), both federal executive departments, acting as the principal organs by which military policy is carried out

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This is the definition...

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

I don’t think it’s necessarily true that everyone who supports the Bill of Rights also supports the President. Or that the two issues are connected at all.

I think there are a lot of ridiculous assertions being made right now by people pushing various narratives.

I think the “legit” questions to be asked are whether the President has the legal authority to deploy federal agents to these locations and whether the local authorities have willingly or unwillingly failed to maintain order to the extent that federal intervention is called for. I suppose that we could also ask the question of the extent to which federal agents should go to protect federal facilities. I think those questions will ultimately decided by the courts or at the ballot box; not by anonymous people insulting each other on the internet.

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Also, the question as to when the feds should interfere at all. trump is not stepping up on a number of issues and says it is the state's responsibility to figure out. Now, on this issue, he is trying to bully his way even though the states want the feds to butt out. He definitely is not a leader.

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Originally Posted by dmc

the rioters looked suited up for a battle, and they are carrying weapons, do they count? Do the resistance and antifa count?

What should the feds wear when they are under attack?

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"IF" they are feds they should be identifiable as such.

Now we've got leaf blower dads protecting people's first amendment rights.

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It's nice to know leaf blowers are good for something, and here all this time I thought they were the most useless thing ever invented.

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Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore

It's nice to know leaf blowers are good for something, and here all this time I thought they were the most useless thing ever invented.

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Au contraire, if you live on a heavily wooded lot where the trees have no compunction against dropping their detritus everywhere, you'll see that they are most useful indeed. Plus, if you have grandkids, you can teach them to use it as a rocket engine for a wheeled desk chair. Not useless at all!