Please explain this to me

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Originally Posted by JaneV2.0

Fortunately, it's hard to find a convenient ice floe these days...

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Elders For Global Warming!

APN, maybe because babies and kids have their whole lives ahead of them. Because if you ever have known someone that’s lost it child they are never the same. Nothing is worse.

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Originally Posted by Teacher Terry

As a former social worker programs have requirements. You have to FINANCIALLY QUALIFY. Locally we are short of drivers because most of the volunteers are retired. I am done explaining this to you.

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You still haven't learned that Y knows everything and the rest of us with experience are idiots who don't understand?>:(

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Originally Posted by frugal-one

Weird and not accurate analogy. The whole society is not refigured just for one segment of it (as you keep insinuating). As you may have read or heard, even small children are now being infected by the virus

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The instances of children sickening are very rare, less than 100 nationwide the last I heard, with 3 deaths. But you know, even to avoid one death we have to trash our economy. But hey, so what if the economy suffers and children, already overrepresented amongst the poor, suffer more. It's quantity not quality of life that counts. I am guessing you are also anti-abortion.

funny how noone mentions how other countries not only go this under control (although they do have to be careful as there are resurgences) but they didn't trash their economy, because they protected jobs (paid money through jobs and furloughed people), and suspended bills, and gave people money to tide them through.

None of which is possible here, because it's the poorest country in the world. So sad, so unfortunate, for a country to be so poor. Exceptional only in it's awfulness as if anyone EVEN WANTED exceptional, noone but full-of-themselves pundits give a rip about that. All anyone wants is COMPETENT, bare base minimum, not full on 3rd world or worse, but can't ask that from our leaders.

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Originally Posted by Gardnr

You still haven't learned that Y knows everything and the rest of us with experience are idiots who don't understand?>:(

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Here are the facts on deliveries to seniors in Teacher Terry's state of Nevada:

https://www.kunr.org/post/elder-neva...k-ins#stream/0

People nationwide can call the 211 number they list for assistance.

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Originally Posted by JaneV2.0

No one's freedom of religion is being impinged upon--maybe freedom of assembly--but churches can hold virtual services and/or broadcast sermons. With luck, this is a temporary situation. One of those defiant pastors* met his maker a little sooner than he anticipated.

*https://kutv.com/news/coronavirus/de...of-coronavirus

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If people believe as per the Bible they are not to neglect assembling together then forbidding them from doing so does infringe on their constitutional rights. It doesn't matter if you agree with their religion. A similar example is the use of peyote. The government considered it dangerous but courts ruled it is permissible due to freedom of religion.

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Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore

well what did she used to do, if it's socialize with the neighbors or something, maybe it would be better if she did that outside weather permitting and stood 6 (or 10 or 20 would be even better of course!) feet away or went to the park or something. Some risk maybe, but lower risk.

But I know my family (mom and immunocompromised sibling) were heading in this direction shopping more and more in pandemic, but I think that was mostly shortage fears since the height of it seemed to be reached in March before anyone was even wearing masks, and all my pleading "that virus is out there you know" did no good, they had to go to 4 stores a day. They might still but they hide it from me at this point as they laugh off my concern, I kind of don't want to know anymore since there is little I can do, but I think they have calmed down some on the shopping, as it was partly shortage fear driven. I ask what they want, they give me one or two things, and I think "you are making me go to the grocery for nothing at this point, as you are probably still going to go". I get the things, but it's a reason why I don't try to go every 2 weeks, I feel used.

I find the stores less crowded, people were panic buying early on period, and that was crowding everything like crazy. But I find the shoppers now frivolous, buying 3 or 10 items and stuff, look don't even tell me you are doing your weekly shopping at that point (much less 2 weeks or something), because I weekly shop and I know know you can't live on 10 items (yea sometimes I take out food, but that's maybe once a week at most and so no you can't live on 10 items! :~) ) You are just shopping for the heck of it. I pick one store a week and get a weeks worth of food.

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ANM the loss of church services has affected her. She does walk with a friend daily, each of them on opposite sides of the road. She also has many long phone conversations, no issues with hearing, so she easily could have called the store to see if the seed potatoes were in instead of going to the store.

It sounds like your family is similar to mine except for my DB and DSIL who have not gone to the store in 8 weeks since she has an underlying condition. They are just eating what is on their pantry and garden.

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Originally Posted by bae

Elders For Global Warming!

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Glass half full! :~)

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Originally Posted by Yppej

If people believe as per the Bible they are not to neglect assembling together then forbidding them from doing so does infringe on their constitutional rights. It doesn't matter if you agree with their religion.

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So if I am a Thuggee and worship Kali, my rights are infringed if I am forbidden from murdering travellers?

Rights are a balance, the Supreme Court has discussed before the need to weigh public safety, especially during emergencies, with rights.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobson_v._Massachusetts

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/197/11