How about we start with the ones who assaulted the Senate on Jan 6 dancing the Tyburn jig, then work our way around to the other problem children…
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How about we start with the ones who assaulted the Senate on Jan 6 dancing the Tyburn jig, then work our way around to the other problem children…
There's always the rack for making them give up their instigators, but I suppose there's some kind of pesky law against that. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by bae
I've been thinking about doing a GoFundMe to build a full-scale replica of the Tarpeian Rock on the Mall in DC.
https://www.wetheitalians.com/storag...3444737485.jpg
Seriously....
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/10/polit...old/index.html
"Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert of Texas presented an honorary American flag recently flown above the US Capitol to a convicted January 6 rioter after she was released from prison Friday.
Gohmert, a Trump ally who has previously promoted debunked conspiracies about the January 6, 2021, insurrection, met Dr. Simone Gold upon her release from federal prison in Miami on Friday and gifted her a flag flown over the Capitol along with an official certificate. In a statement released Friday, Gohmert falsely claimed that Gold was "a political prisoner," a term many supporters of former President Donald Trump have used to inaccurately describe the prosecution and incarceration of January 6 defendants."
Right out in the open. Yeah--Tarpeian Rock.
60% of the population will have a chance to vote for an "I support the big liar" republican this november... And the non-trump republicans believe that the party will somehow go back to being the "tax cuts for rich" party in their lifetime. LOL.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...lection-fraud/
MAJOR reason not to vote republican!!Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Next I suppose you’ll be explaining to me how Lincoln was a Republican and therefore it’s not possible that the Republican Party has become the welcoming home for racists in America today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
That's rather disturbing. The transitory news has dropped the Jan. 6 proceedings, but I assume there is more to come on that front.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
It would be of interest some day to see a list of Trump's circle who have been convicted of crimes and/or are under investigation. Including those who've been pardoned. It sounds like they may at least take Bannon out of circulation, but he probably has expensive lawyers, too. Giuliani seems to teeter on the edge of the law.
We have a county official, Tina Peters, who is a "stop the steal" Republican and is currently charged with election tampering. She received the distinction of being featured in a New Yorker article.
It's fascinating to watch apologists for this gang of miscreants reach desperately for any evidence that "both sides do it," when they clearly don't. Obviously, I'm older than dirt, and the only comparable situation in my lifetime was Watergate, for which Nixon was widely and correctly reviled. And that didn't involve stolen (and sold?) state secrets.
I don’t like recognizing this physician/rioter either, But aren’t we glad she was convicted and served time? Can’t we be happy about that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogar
Is there anything we can be happy about?
I think the recognition may have a lot to do with her stance on anti-VAX anti-mask sort of alternative to CDC dictums as much as anything, but that’s just my speculation.
But the big picture is: sure, prosecute the Jan 6 rioters to the full extent of the law. Which is hapoening.
Well finally, a Republican who lays out the important issue of our time—trees—and their menace.
In my gardening reading I came across this snippet about Republican Senate candidate in Georgia, Hershall Walker, who had this to say about trees:
“They continue to try to fool you that they are helping you out. But they’re not. Because a lot of money, it’s going to trees. Don’t we have enough trees around here?”
Walker is, of course, attacking the recently passed and signed Inflation Reduction Act, which, despite its name, is the nation’s biggest, most comprehensive effort to combat global warming. …”
This man gets it, Trees are The Enemy.
My AQI is 250+ today from wildfire smoke, so he’s not wrong!
Hell yeah, sing it baby!Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
I don’t think anything less than a comprehensive purge will satisfy them.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
Herschel's stories are unquestionably entertaining, but I can't believe someone so obviously either limited or impaired was encouraged to run.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
Possibly concussed.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
By comprehensive purge I assume you mean going all the way up the chain of people involved in attempting to overthrow the government up to the traitor in chief, and not skipping the senatorial traitors, You are correct. It’s odd that democrats are now being derided by republicans because we are in favor of the rule of law.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Yeah, and IL thinks "But the big picture is: sure, prosecute the Jan 6 rioters to the full extent of the law. Which is hapoening." Not!!! They are basically getting a slap on the wrist and, in some cases, given flags for their traitor ways.
She served 60 days in prison and is on probation after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
That isn’t “a slap on the wrists” in my book. Taking someone’s liberty away for
2 months is a big deal.
Maybe the rational Republicans should have purged their party of clowns like Boebert, Taylor-Green, Jordan, Gohmert, and countless others. The never-Trumpers represent the very best of what the party used to be.
For trying to overthrow the government and doing damage? ? Two months is just a slap. IMO. If you are talking about Jenna Ryan ? ? She bragged about her involvement. Make the penalty huge so this stupidly doesn’t happen again!Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
Wow, what a coincidence. I just finished reading an article from a link sent to all the VT Master Gardeners. Great response to Hershall Walker who thinks that trees are irrelevant. IL, I truly don't understand how you think trees are the enemy.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2...m_medium=email
I can see why the idiot Walker is attacking trees. A little while back he explained that our air pollution problems were because China was exporting their pollution to us or some such nonsense. It only makes sense that he’s push back against any other narrative.
(Admittedly claiming that anything he says ‘makes sense’ is a stretch. That dude comes across as the poster child for how harmful football is for human brains).
oh come now, you know I like trees in their proper place and when they behave themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by catherine
That is a nice article, and I may even forward it. However, as a part of a stronger argument for the sake of trees, he missed the birds that use them for nesting, food, and cover or I didn't see it. I'd call that a major oversight.Quote:
Originally Posted by catherine
Agreed--and he focused primarily on the benefits of trees in the urban environment. All true and good benefits, but I would also liked to have seen a nod to the importance of the carbon sequestration of old-growth forest--as well as the importance of wildlife habitat as you said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogar
Oh I think it goes farther than talking themselves into believing they are the saviors of the nation. I see Charlie Crist in Florida is comparing himself to Jesus Christ running against “DeSatan”. In his more modest moments, he’s merely Zelensky.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Sure a lot more fun than talking about inflation or crime, isn’t it?
Your diversionary tactic is not working. Can’t argue jp1’s response so try to divert the issue…. yup, not working.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
Meanwhile the republicans just keep getting more and more open about their outright contempt for our government and constitution with their senate candidate from Ohio openly suggesting that we simply ignore the rule of law. It's sad and quite terrifying that they would rather throw the country away rather than attempt to come up with policies that might appeal to a majority of voters. But sure, lets get the ****ing conversation back to inflation and tax cuts for the rich. Un****ing believable how willfully clueless some people are.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ialist-caesar/
That is really scary jp1! Yet people still keep blinders on as to what is going on. They do not look because they don't want to see.
Yes. Inflation, crime, border chaos and fiscal lunacy are a mere smokescreen to obscure the real issue of the cosmic battle for America’s soul. The Democrats understand this, and will continue the good fight even if they have to financially prop up candidates to give them someone to fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
I read JD Vance's memoir Hillbilly Elegy,and was appalled at his dysfunctional background of rampant drug and alcohol abuse, violence and gleeful grifting. And today, every time he opens his mouth he seems to betray his miserable beginnings.
“This is one of the great tricks that I think the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace, which is the idea that like, ‘well, OK, these marriages were fundamentally, you know, they were maybe even violent, but certainly they were unhappy. And so getting rid of them and making it easier for people to shift spouses like they change their underwear, that’s going to make people happier in the long term,’” Vance said. (at a high school in California in September)
I'm very surprised the
Republicans and democrats are not listening to the American people. Most people are not for an abortion ban. Hence Kansas and Michigan with ballot initiatives.
Most people want law and order and safe police protection. Why don't both democrats and Republicans denounce blm protesters and Jan 6 protesters who injured and fought police and destroyed property. Both parties should denounce all violence.
Instead of endless investigations why not get affordable healthcare and revise our immigration laws. Why in the world in this day and age do we still have birthright citizenship? Who agrees with sanctuary cities?
I think they all have gone crazy and we are the ones who pay as nothing gets done. Here in FL I cannot even watch TV. The political ads are all hateful scaremongering getting of how bad the opponent is and some of the statements are downright lies. Truly a sad state.
Watched a 60 Minute segment not too long ago that said campaign ads do NOT have to tell the truth.. Crazy!
Most people don’t want a complete abortion ban, and most states don’t have one. Most people don’t want abortion allowed until and including the ninth month of oregnancy, and most states don’t allow it. I think it’s good that states are now having to work through this thorny issue on their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere
I Think you are wrong about sanctuary cities. There seem to be plenty of people who like them or at least like the idea of them. I think it is hilarious that some of these border city mayors are shipping bus loads of their illegal immigrants to the mayors who have Sanctimoniously prattled about their love of illegal immigrants.
But who would determine what “the truth” is? That is a thorny issue. The Twitter etc. platforms are having all kinds of problems with that concept. Perhaps our president should reopen his Politburo of Truth and Beauty or whatever it was called.Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
As I understand it, sanctuary cities exist to keep local law enforcement from being tasked with harassing people who might be undocumented. Pursuing non-criminals, shaking down people, ID checks etc. cost cities money they'd rather spend fighting crime. I've seen very few proponents of "open borders," like I've seen very few proponents of "abortion on demand," but they make effective Republican talking points.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
This does not address your direct point, but the city of St. Louis became a “sanctuary city for reproductive rights” when the board of alderman voted to do that a few years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
Yes, that kept law-enforcement from chasing down those reproductive criminals. Because there’s so many of them and the cops had been spending so much time on it! and Lord knows our City prosecutor just spent all of her resources on those cases.
N. O. T.
this is my sarcastic way of saying sanctuary cities are stupid, but somebody likes them. I can assure you that cops and city prosecutors are under no obligation to carry out laws the feds say they must, let alone state laws or even their own city laws. I witness it every day.
And sadly, in today’s aldermanic race, that champion of St. Louis as sanctuary city for production rights is running against my favorite alderman for alderman president. The nutjob will probably win.
My County is a "Nuclear Weapons-Free Zone" and a "GMO-Free Zone"...
Oh, and I just double-checked the list, we're also an "Immigration Sanctuary County".
Makes sense, since we're right on the border, in the midst of traditional smuggling routes...