Conavirus......

I heard on the radio today New Zealand has gone months with no new domestic cases, no mask mandates or advisories, and no social distancing or curfews. Bars are open and you can dance as close to others in clubs as you want.

They banned anyone from other countries from coming in. So the US didn't go far enough fast enough with international travel restrictions.

I am starting to think xenophobia aka living locally is the answer. A lot of the international interconnectedness that neoliberals and neoconservatives espouse with their trade agreements and wars just benefits big multinational companies and spreads germs.

New Zealand also did a hard lockdown for 5 weeks, followed by a very cautious reopening for two more weeks. With decent coordinated leadership we could have done the same. And still could for that matter. But we won't.

Heard on the news this morning that Navy Pier, the biggest tourist attraction in Chicago, might shut down. Didn’t open until sometime in June and they’re $20 million in the hole. The big Ferris wheel is still closed.

How it's done when you have an unexpected flare-up:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisond...c#2aae421e5c26

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New Zealand also did a hard lockdown for 5 weeks, followed by a very cautious reopening for two more weeks. With decent coordinated leadership we could have done the same. And still could for that matter. But we won't.

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Yea, restrictions on international travel are necessary but unless you have a strategy to control the virus in your own country only so useful. New Zealand did. The U.S. doesn't. They have a female social democratic leader (she's really beyond awesome on many things - no we can't get it that good - study her for what good leadership would look like). We have Trump.

I was more a proponent of living locally, maybe I still believe in shopping locally, but I've decided I might actually like to visit somewhere like New Zealand, just to see what it's like in a county that's not an un-developing 3rd worldizing kleptocracy.

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Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore

Yea, restrictions on international travel are necessary but unless you have a strategy to control the virus in your own country only so useful. New Zealand did. The U.S. doesn't. They have a female social democratic leader (she's really beyond awesome on many things - no we can't get it that good - study her for what good leadership would look like). We have Trump.

I was more a proponent of living locally, maybe I still believe in shopping locally, but I've decided I might actually like to visit somewhere like New Zealand, just to see what it's like in a county that's not an un-developing 3rd worldizing kleptocracy.

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That sums it up well. Surely, we'd be the laughing stock of the world if we didn't have nukes.

I bought a couple of neck gaiters today. If you wet them they are cooler than a mask. If it is warm on my vacation time I can wear them. I think the state should be providing face coverings rather thrusting an unfunded mandate on the people, so I purchased the covering that experts say may do more harm than good. Not that this will teach the tyrants, but it may make me more comfortable and give me a sense of satisfaction.

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Originally Posted by Yppej

I bought a couple of neck gaiters today. If you wet them they are cooler than a mask. If it is warm on my vacation time I can wear them. I think the state should be providing face coverings rather thrusting an unfunded mandate on the people, so I purchased the covering that experts say may do more harm than good. Not that this will teach the tyrants, but it may make me more comfortable and give me a sense of satisfaction.

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((Tammy))

I hope the long haul brings you health and wholeness.

Sending you plump sweet juicy virtual blueberries from the high bushes!

Be well.