Printable View
My county had a peaceful "Stop the Covid Chaos" rally attended by thousands and little social distancing or mask wearing. By county Covid restrictions this was an illegal gathering, but it doesn't look like there will be any repercussions. One was quoted to say something like, Covid is a concern but shouldn't be so restrictive as to hinder people's lives.
I guess "threaten people's lives" is okay, but better not "hinder". LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogar
Although Donald Trump has named himself a wartime president, I think covid is not the same as something like World War II. My mother was born in Germany in 1940. She didn't miss having a father - no one had them. An entire generation of men was wiped out. There was large-scale loss of life, not only from battles but from the Holocaust, which killed 90+% of Jews in many villages along with many in other targeted populations.
Covid has a mortality rate of around 1%. To me there is no comparison, yet we have now run up a larger deficit responding to it than any time since World War II. The US was in World War II four years, but in Covid five months now. I am very fearful for the future of the next generation - saddled with huge deficits, giant student loans, a growing number of elderly people to support per worker, and facing a disproportionate share of the covid layoffs, all to protect mainly people who are retired and could stay home if they wanted to, there being many volunteers willing to bring them supplies for the duration.
Covid losers are definitely the young. Our country is now a gerontocracy.
I feel sorry for the 180,000 people who have died and many more will follow.
Kill yourself yeppej aren't you like 50 something, gah that's older than dirt, isn't it time for you to die? You've lived long enough, kill yourself make room from someone younger and hopefully nicer. 40 is probably lived long enough already, it's enough to reproduce, and after that it's just taking up space, right?
What about the young? Well what about the young, what kind of society are we bringing them into if the old are disposable? A garbage society, one in which one SHOULD NOT bring kids into, a society that treats the vulnerable as disposable. What kind of world is that to bring kids into? Maybe that's why birth rates are down, noone thinks this society is a decent one to raise kids in.
By the way anyone who thinks the largely fictional national debt is a larger threat to the young than the very real environmental damage has drunk way too much right wing propaganda. But that's yeppej for you.
Oddly, COVID is not nearly as much of a problem in other parts of the world. Could it be our half-hearted response?
"By the way anyone who thinks the largely fictional national debt is a larger threat to the young than the very real environmental damage has drunk way too much right wing propaganda. But that's yeppej for you." I couldn't agree more with this statement. "Property, sacrosanct; human lives, disposable" seems to be the Republican standard these days.
[QUOTE=Yppej;362017]To me there is no comparison, yet we have now run up a larger deficit responding to it than any time since World War II. The US was in World War II four years, but in Covid five months now. I am very fearful for the future of the next generation - saddled with huge deficits, giant student loans, a growing number of elderly people to support per worker, and facing a disproportionate share of the covid layoffs, all to protect mainly people who are retired and could stay home if they wanted to, there being many volunteers willing to bring them supplies for the duration.QUOTE]
I suspect if you are basing your argument on Covid causing a huge national debt, it is probably misplaced. Our national debt is a product of long term excess spending and historically low taxes. Covid has just piled a couple more sticks on the camel's back.
[QUOTE=Rogar;362027]Our federal tax rate, combined as it is with a doily of loopholes, is a national disgrace.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
The COVID19 death rate in the US is 3.3%, according to this source: https://epidemic-stats.com/
I've not seen lingering morbidity figures, but that's another factor.
ETA; Seasonal flu death rate is said to be "a fraction of 1%."
[QUOTE=Rogar;362027]Yes, it was bad before, but not this bad. And we are setting a precedent, with every bad virus out of China this will be the new norm. This is not the way we handled SARS or other malevolent viruses. Since we cannot eliminate the root cause - China's encroachment on wildlife habitat and their abuse of animals in crowded unsanitary conditions - I can see us getting hit with more trillion dollar virus bailouts before we ever pay for this one, spiralling downwards into national bankruptcy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej