Prayer is a wonderful thing and it works. The motives here are suspect. I'm a liberal democrat and have no use for the tea party or politicians who pander to them.
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Prayer is a wonderful thing and it works. The motives here are suspect. I'm a liberal democrat and have no use for the tea party or politicians who pander to them.
God is decidedly not a guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catwoman
I just don't understand a lot of the biblical teachings.
Matthew 22:36-40 Love your neighbor as yourself.
Does that include homosexuals?
Though shall not commit adultery. Is divorce OK if you are a Christian?
The Sabbath day is one of rest. As a Christian do you hold a day to worship and not shop, work etc.
That is what confuses me. I can see the comfort people get in believing in god and spreading the good word. Many good works are done in the name of god- all over the world love and good will are spread in the name of god. But what about rallying against others (in this case homosexuals) and their beliefs? What about the taliban making women wear Burkas in public in the name of their god?
We can all find quotes to fit our needs and biblical scholars to back up our beliefs, but isn't all about being a good loving person, honoring our parents, not discriminating, loving our spouses (and being faithful) and children, not stealing and lying, and helping those who are downtrodden and sickly no matter which book you read?
I don't think the issue here is prayer - I think the issue is questioning the sincerity of the motives of those throwing the party. And I think people can research Rick Perry and the AFA (their web page appears to lay out what their priorities are) and decide for themselves. Maybe I'm being cynical but I expect more people coming out will be sure that you have to be Republican (and antigay rights, and a few other things) to be a Christian than went in.
I'm always disappointed by how venal folks can be when it comes to religion, especially Christianity, and how little understanding most have of separation of church and state.
There is no religious test for public office, there's only citizens voting their values. The fact that they may not reflect yours simply means that our system of governance works at the highest level.
Or no book. Religion doesn't own morality, or cornered the market on kindness and goodness. Those things have absolutely nothing to do with religion. Any religion. Personally i want all my politicians to be non religious because then they don't have an excuse for their nasty behaviour. They can't hide behind some book written thousands of years ago when they discriminate. 'It's in the bible sooo, it must be so'Quote:
Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere
If a non religious politician votes to discriminate, then they have to own it.
So, if Rick Perry were to become president, this is his fiscal policy? Prayer? Really? Yea, take away grandma's medicare, then pray she can afford 75% of her health care expenses. Take away subsidised school lunches and food stamps then pray someone else makes the kid a sandwich. Gee, maybe there really is something to this praying stuff. It absolves you of any real responsibility.
But if his answer to the countries problems is to pray, why should we even elect him president? I mean, won't he pray for the country anyway? If he's a good christian and all... and doesn't he think people have been praying for the country all along, or does he think he's the only one who thought of it.
Isn't there something in the bible about people who pray in public? Who make a public display of their prayer? Think anyone is going to read that passage at his prayapolooza?
Yea, well, see here's the thing. I am not completely unfamiliar with the bible. And I know if these people were truly voting their values, or rather the values presented in the bible, (or rather the teachings of Jesus cause there is some pretty questionable values in the bible!) they wouldn't be voting for these republicans.Quote:
Originally Posted by alan
KWIM ;)
No, not really.Quote:
Originally Posted by peggy
Being generally agnostic, I look at prayer in general kind of like CF lightbulbs or reusable grocery bags. They may not save the world, but there is a chance they could do some good and don't hurt anyone so why stand in anyone's way if that's their choice?
OTOH, I have a collection of t-shirts from events I consider absurd. They're just for fun, to provoke a little conversation. You can bet your booty I want a shirt from this event! This could even take over the #1 spot in my collection from the long time title holder: my O.J. Trial "Live at Five" t-shirt (shows OJ pulling on the glove).
This forum doesnt allow disrespect of religions and spiritual practices unless it happens to be Christianity. The hateful posts, the mocking of my Saviours name....."Jeeeesus", from the OP of this thread......is very in your face and disrespectful of my faith. It is very hypocrital of this forum to allow Christian bashing.