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1-6-21, 5:26pm
bae

I think the streets of DC should run red with the blood of these insurrectionists.
1-6-21, 5:27pm
jp1

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

I don’t. Nor do I think the US government can be overthrown by a group of protesters in DC. Predictably, people’s outrage here seems to vary by their political position.

For the record, I think political violence is wrong whether you choose to call it a protest, a riot or a coup.

They’ve prevented congress from doing it’a duty of certifying the electoral college results. They almost certainly will not have long term success but they have certainly had short term success. If you really want to I suppose you can continue to try and defend the indefensible.
1-6-21, 5:28pm
Tammy

I’m watching Fox News also - to hear all sides. Fox is using words like anarchy and coup.

There is no excuse.
1-6-21, 5:29pm
dmc

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Originally Posted by Gardnr

I 100% agree!

How many blacks were gunned down during the protest/riots this year?
1-6-21, 5:30pm
jp1

How come trump didn’t tell the BLM protestors he loved them?
1-6-21, 5:30pm
Tammy

I will not debate details. If you can’t see the obvious differences between Portland and today, you are a lost cause.
1-6-21, 5:31pm
gimmethesimplelife

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Originally Posted by Gardnr

I 100% agree!

Yes. This is one of the horrible truths of America. I have been unable to deny this since I was 14. But I'm also grateful Rapheal Warnock won in Georgia. His 82 year old Mother, who once picked cotton? Had the pleasure of voting for her Son as a US Senator. So there is hope - and an awful lot of BS, too. Rob
1-6-21, 5:32pm
dmc

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Originally Posted by bae

I think the streets of DC should run red with the blood of these insurrectionists.

Tough talk, Im sure you would assist, except you would have to leave you island sanctuary.
1-6-21, 5:32pm
gimmethesimplelife

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Originally Posted by Tammy

I will not debate details. If you can’t see the obvious differences between Portland and today, you are a lost cause.

Bingo! Rob
1-6-21, 5:34pm
gimmethesimplelife

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Originally Posted by dmc

Tough talk, Im sure you would assist, except you would have to leave you island sanctuary.

I never thought I'd stand up for bae.....never say never! Please play civil in the sandbox, Sir. Sarcasm will solve nor change nada here. Rob
1-6-21, 5:37pm
dmc

They should declare it a autonomous zone.
1-6-21, 5:40pm
jp1

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Originally Posted by dmc

Tough talk, Im sure you would assist, except you would have to leave you island sanctuary.

Based on what we know about bae I don’t think accusations of wimpiness will be viewed as credible by many people here.
1-6-21, 5:41pm
jp1

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Originally Posted by dmc

They should declare it a autonomous zone.

So you admit it IS a coup. Or at least that you wish it were. Thanks for clarifying.
1-6-21, 5:42pm
JaneV2.0

Thousands and thousands of demonstrators held forth for months in the streets of Portland, with minimal violence and damage and no threat to the Republic. And, I repeat, a sizeable portion of that violence came at the hands of white supremacists and general troublemakers. Not to mention their cause was a worthy one.
1-6-21, 5:44pm
ApatheticNoMore

Meanwhile the anti-democratic coup tries to set off pipe bombs. But oh yea water bottles would be a real problem.
1-6-21, 5:49pm
JaneV2.0

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Originally Posted by bae

I think the streets of DC should run red with the blood of these insurrectionists.

I think this demands an investigation and widespread prosecution of the perpetrators, including the inciters.
Trump finally made a statement, telling the insurrectionists "I love you," and repeatedly lying about a stolen election.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ouse.html?ito=
1-6-21, 5:54pm
jp1

18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

The criminal code seems pretty clear on what's going on.
1-6-21, 5:54pm
LDAHL

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Originally Posted by jp1

They’ve prevented congress from doing it’a duty of certifying the electoral college results. They almost certainly will not have long term success but they have certainly had short term success. If you really want to I suppose you can continue to try and defend the indefensible.

What is it you think I am defending?
1-6-21, 5:57pm
LDAHL

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Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore

Meanwhile the anti-democratic coup tries to set off pipe bombs. But oh yea water bottles would be a real problem.

I heard they had to detonate a bomb at the Republican National Committee HQ.
1-6-21, 5:59pm
jp1

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

What is it you think I am defending?

Trying to claim that this is just a run of the mill protest and not an attempted coup by American terrorists is defending them.
1-6-21, 6:02pm
JaneV2.0

An attempted coup led by a sitting American president, no less.
1-6-21, 6:03pm
bae

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Originally Posted by dmc

Tough talk, Im sure you would assist, except you would have to leave you island sanctuary.

**** you.
1-6-21, 6:09pm
LDAHL

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Originally Posted by jp1

Trying to claim that this is just a run of the mill protest and not an attempted coup by American terrorists is defending them.

I said I was opposed to political violence by any name. You seem to think by not sharing your heated rhetoric I am somehow “defending” something.
1-6-21, 6:17pm
jp1

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

I said I was opposed to political violence by any name. You seem to think by not sharing you’re heated rhetoric I am somehow “defending” something.

Again, if you think this is an average, just another day in America, type event, your downplaying of the seriousness of what is happening is defending it. We have never in our history had armed insurrectionists attempt to thwart the work of congress certifying the electoral college results. Never. Ever. There is nothing at all remotely normal about what is going on and trying to claim it is normal is defending the indefensible.
1-6-21, 6:22pm
Tammy

I’m reading that several state capitals have some trouble brewing as well ... I live 4 blocks from the AZ capital and helicopters have been circling for over an hour now.
1-6-21, 6:29pm
iris lilies

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Originally Posted by jp1

Again, if you think this is an average, just another day in America, type event, your downplaying of the seriousness of what is happening is defending it. We have never in our history had armed insurrectionists attempt to thwart the work of congress certifying the electoral college results. Never. Ever. There is nothing at all remotely normal about what is going on and trying to claim it is normal is defending the indefensible.

Look, It is serious. I think it’s serious. I turned on the radio just long enough to hear daddy Joe give a very nice, on target talk to America. He asked Donald Trump to tell everyone to go home. Donald Trump asked everyone to go home.

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

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I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!”

But when America celebrates going into the street to riot, well, you know, more that shit happens.
1-6-21, 6:29pm
Gardnr

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Originally Posted by bae

I think the streets of DC should run red with the blood of these insurrectionists.

Agreed. I hope the 15 injured survive. As you and I know, CPR on a gurney traveling to the ambulance does not bode well for the first shooting victim :-(
1-6-21, 6:32pm
catherine

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Originally Posted by iris lilies

Look, It is serious. I think it’s serious. I turned on the radio just long enough to hear daddy Joe give a very nice, on target talk to America. He asked Donald Trump to tell everyone to go home. Donald Trump asked everyone to go home.

After lying about the integrity of the elections and telling his insurrectionists that he loves them and that "'THEY' stole from us but what can we do?"

Hardly a statement of support for the democratic process. He is cultivating his cult following. (Hmm, now I have to look up the etymology of "cultivate" and "cult")
1-6-21, 6:33pm
KayLR

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Originally Posted by JaneV2.0

Thousands and thousands of demonstrators held forth for months in the streets of Portland, with minimal violence and damage and no threat to the Republic. And, I repeat, a sizeable portion of that violence came at the hands of white supremacists and general troublemakers. Not to mention their cause was a worthy one.

Well, there was lots of damage. Large & small businesspeople will tell you that... Otherwise I'm with ya there.
1-6-21, 6:34pm
iris lilies

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Originally Posted by jp1

How come trump didn’t tell the BLM protestors he loved them?

Because he doesn’t?

I don’t either.
1-6-21, 6:35pm
KayLR

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaneV2.0

I think this demands an investigation and widespread prosecution of the perpetrators, including the inciters.
Trump finally made a statement, telling the insurrectionists "I love you," and repeatedly lying about a stolen election.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ouse.html?ito=

I agree!
1-6-21, 6:36pm
gimmethesimplelife

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Originally Posted by bae

**** you.

bae....I agree with you here. Rob
1-6-21, 6:50pm
jp1

Traitor trump’s message telling them to go home today was about as much of a non message to go home as when he told his fanboys to stand down and stand by or when he denounced the neonazis in VA by saying there were good people on both sides.

The dude needs to be impeached and removed or 25th amendmented. But of course there are not enough honorable republicans in the positions necessary to make either of those things happen so we’ll have to stumble through two more weeks of his shitastic presidency.
1-6-21, 6:57pm
JaneV2.0

I heard someone interviewed who used to listen to mob conversations as part of his job. He said Trump's discussions with underlings was similar, in that he didn't issue orders, but indicated what he wanted done, and expected his minions to read between the lines. He's apparently operated as a mob boss wannabe for decades. I guess that's why he needed his own Roy Cohn.
1-6-21, 7:27pm
gimmethesimplelife

I've called home and to a few neighbors. We seem to be OK here in close-in Phoenix. There is happiness about the Senate flipping blue along with fear and anger about the overthrow attempt. But no mayhem, we're safe here in Phoenix. Rob
1-6-21, 7:33pm
Tradd

I’m in favor of the 25th amendment option.
1-6-21, 7:34pm
bae

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Originally Posted by Tradd

I’m in favor of the 25th amendment option.

Well, it would be good to have someone in charge.
1-6-21, 7:39pm
dmc

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Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife

bae....I agree with you here. Rob

How will I be able to sleep at night.

Just fine actually.
1-6-21, 7:39pm
gimmethesimplelife

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Originally Posted by Tradd

I’m in favor of the 25th amendment option.

YES!!! Sane idea to get us to January 20th. I agree with you once again. Rob
1-6-21, 7:48pm
catherine

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Originally Posted by bae

Well, it would be good to have someone in charge.

I could live with Pence for 14 days.

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