Easy there. I live in Patriots territory. Only Brady is laughable because he is a traitor.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
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Easy there. I live in Patriots territory. Only Brady is laughable because he is a traitor.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
Oh, I don't know about that. To me, someone considering themselves as patriotic are just expressing their love for something bigger than themselves, in this case their country, in a succinct manner. People who consider themselves patriots generally do it alone and do not expect others to validate it for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
I save my laughter for those who feel entitled to perhaps choose their own pronouns and demand everyone else respect them, or use their adjectives improperly such as someone politically 'progressive' calling themselves 'liberal'. That's a real knee slapper.
Those who stormed the capital on Jan 6th (or provoked them to do so) are NOT patriots IMO but traitors who should be treated as such. The damage done and talk of hanging Pence, etc. One person was shot and killed on the spot. Surprisingly, there were not more. What is laughable is these low lifes calling themselves patriots.
People can call themselves whatever they like and they could call other people whatever they like. It’s just a dumb label.Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
The people who stormed the capital, who actually broke down doors and acted like fools are what
I call “fools. “
Liz Cheney's opening remarks at the Jan 6th Hearing are spot on!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ing/ar-AAYiKz7
They might more accurately be called "tools." They acted in service to a fool.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
I wasn't a fan of her father, but I really admire her integrity and willingness to speak truth to power, despite the impact on her own standing in her party.Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
I agree. She is courageous in comparison to the latter-day quislings in her party.Quote:
Originally Posted by catherine
"Fools" works for me, but "criminals" is the first word that comes to my mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
The Proud Boys (sic) have been on my radar since they violently and repeatedly disrupted BLM demonstrations in Portland. They were thugs and criminals long before they were involved in the insurrection.
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/...ite-legal-woes
We can only hope all republicans and those small r republicans (whatever that means) are watching the Jan 6th hearings and vote trump supporters out of office. What I don't understand is why traitor trump is not in jail??? Supposedly the Justice Department has to investigate him. It makes one wonder if that department is in his pocket too??
The few things that are talked about being done to control gun violence is another story. The NRA contributes to too many republicans so they are afraid of losing their backing...
Is the Devil Trump so awesomely powerful that he has the Justice Department in his pocket? Wow, what a thought. Who knew?!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
Our justice system is probably having a difficult time finding prosecutable charges based on Jan 6 Committee feelings and innuendo. Of course, the committee isn't actually looking for those charges, preferring to create the first Congressional reality show in hopes of making their dominant brand less odious prior to the mid terms.Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
Because Liz Cheney is secretly a Democrat sympathizer...(sarcasm, if its not obvious)Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
Are you one of the ones who contributed to trump? If so, you were ripped off. Showed mega bucks given to his hotel corporation, as well as, to other odious endeavors. trump is a big-time grifter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
And, IL remember trump getting rid of Justice attorneys who did not agree with him. There was also a mass exodus in the Justice Dept based on his lunacy.
And yes, I believe our democracy is in jeopardy based on all that has transpired.
Nope, I've never attempted to buy favor with a politician. It only encourages them to ask for more.Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
US Attorneys hold political positions and serve at the whim of the President. It's a pretty common occurrence to replace many during each administration.Quote:
And, IL remember trump getting rid of Justice attorneys who did not agree with him.
I have a friend who contributed a tiny amount to Trump years ago to get on his mailing list. She gets near constant emails begging and cajoling her to send money.
Rachel Maddow show yesterday illustrated a number of reasons where republican is not the way to vote. The program started out talking how in 2017 when republicans had all the power the FIRST thing they did was pass a law making it easier for those mentally ill to get guns. NOW they will make a big deal about doing more about mental health when in fact …. If you an opportunity to watch her show, it is worthwhile IMO.
Gotta say, Liz Cheney may be a Republican but I have a huge amount of respect for her.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
Rob
A new poll shows Biden's positive approval ratings outweigh his negatives in only two states, Vermont and Hawaii. Massachusetts is the latest to drop off the list.
Absolutely. Historians will be kind to her.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife
Liz Cheney values doing the right thing over winning re-election. We need more people like her on both sides.
I am no big fan of Trump and have watched parts of the hearings. I've not seen evidence of anything he has done that is glaringly illegal. Apparently sedition is a charge they will be going after, and I think that thread is pretty thin and even if it goes through the judicial system, Trump strategy of high power lawyers and tying things up in the court system forever will probably be the case. It feels more like a rerun of the failed impeachment trials rather and less about restoring faith in the election process and discrediting everyone who supports the big lie. But I'm not a legal expert and can hope I'm wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
Since presumably Trump would receive a jury trial if they ever charge him with something specific, I wonder what the odds are of getting a jury that would manage to convict?
I'm pretty sure if he shot someone to death on the 8PM News, there'd still at this point be at least one person on the jury who would vote to acquit.
I've always assumed that if trump was going to end up in a jumpsuit to match his ugly spray tan that it would be because of the BS real estate/tax crap he did for decades that's currently being investigated by Letitia James. There are simply too many people like some on this forum who are completely incapable of viewing any action by him, at least when related to his time in the White Supremacy House, as having been meaningfully wrong in any way shape or form. Distasteful, perhaps, but not wrong in any way that people should care about according to those people.
Which people are those? Might it be the highly partisan members of the Jan 6 committee who seem to have given up on uncovering anything illegal and are now producing reality TV shows in hopes of putting enough doubt in peoples minds to influence a potential 2024 run?Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Thanks for proving my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
Maybe, but I don't think it was the point you intended. Personally, I think Trump is a ego-maniacal bully with low self esteem issues, I wish he'd just fade away. I also think people hate him for just that reason and many seem to spend too much of their lives trying to promote or build a case for retaliating against him for hurting their feelings. A good portion of our House of Representatives has spent nearly 6 years trying to achieve that goal without any measurable success, and it continues.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
I think the Jan 6 committee is using him to build a case against Republicans in general in hopes of enhancing their political fortunes and I believe that's just as dis-tasteful as Trump's ongoing buffoonery. I'm also disappointed to see that roughly half our population have no issues disparaging the other half for seeing that.
If you, the media, and congress really want to hurt Trump you should ignore him, that would hurt him much more than your daily dose of hate ever will, and the country will be better off for it.
This right here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
you just know The Donald loves taking up so much space in JP’s brain. What’s that saying about living rent free in someone’s head? Well, The Donald is a real estate expert so there ya go.
With apologies to Voltaire, if Trump didn’t exist, it would be necessary to invent him. Absent him, people might be talking about things like crime or inflation.
It's funny how some people think that being pissed that a president, with the support of a significant chunk of his political party*, attempting to overthrow the government is just hurt feelings. I can't imagine caring so little for this country that that would be my only reaction.
*apparently including some of the conservative hacks on the supreme court as well according to yesterday's news.
JP you've been pissed at the same guy for over 4 years, saying the same things over and over, hating him and disparaging anyone who doesn't hate as much as you do. The events of Jan 6 only piss you off even more because it wasn't BLM or Antifa or some other group you approve of storming the Capitol. The Democratic Party and the media both encourage you for their own purposes and you don't even realize it. Of course, you're in good company there.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
The trump problem is t going to go away once he’s died and gone to hell. Republicans have simply decided that elections just don’t matter and won’t respect them.
https://apnews.com/article/2022-midt...0d0f7bc1ddc1b2
Trump has never hurt my feelings, but he's often triggered my gag reflex and made me ashamed and embarrassed for my country.
I remember when Watergate happened and we were lucky enough to be able to listen to a live feed at work. What I don't remember is the whole Republican party encircling and protecting Nixon--whose crimes, IMO, were similar--trying to maintain political power--but much less egregious. And I don't remember a television network stubbornly supporting his lies, or "militias" full of thugs devoted to his cause, or Russian talking points being uttered by pundits and men in the street. You didn't see the hearings being characterized as partisan theater. As long as today's Republicans--with a very few notable exceptions--persist in defending Trump to the bitter end, with all that entails--I have no hope for his party. I agree with Senator Cheney that Trump will be gone some day, but the dishonor of his defenders will remain.
It's not just the ****ing events of J6 that piss me off. It's the fact that a damn president along with many people inside and outside of his administration made a month's long, deadly serious attempt to overthrow the government. Frankly I find it appalling that some people just don't seem to give a crap and would happily let all those involved not be held responsible for their actions. Law and order party indeed. Like so much of the republican party that was just another lie. So, no, I'm not going to stop disparaging the people I am appalled by.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
It's occurred to me that Trump will be trying extra hard to get elected again so he can once again be protected by presidential immunity and also pardon any of his accused cohorts.
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Originally Posted by bae
Sadly, trump himself said something to that effect earlier... basically that he could get away with anything.
I suspect he is accurate, as it only takes a single person to keep a jury from convicting.Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
Kinda hard when he has republicans still kowtowing to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
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Originally Posted by JaneV2.0