Maybe you're right Zig. There's plenty of good old wisdom out there that tells us watching how someone deals with a mistake is the surest window to their character. If nothing else we will get plenty of peeks into those windows.
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Maybe you're right Zig. There's plenty of good old wisdom out there that tells us watching how someone deals with a mistake is the surest window to their character. If nothing else we will get plenty of peeks into those windows.
Peggy - good catch on bely - belie...Now tell me, did ya have to look that one up? Who has better grammar? Republicans or Democrats? Northerners or Southerners? Conservatives or Liberals?
I love it when two females make up - they are so adorable in so many ways.
Peace and Love
I vote down with proper grammar on the boards! I vote NO to spelling well on the boards!
I do vote YES to free flow, pointed discussion outlining our political differences sans mano e mano tactics.
Better Grammar - I won't win --- but I'll vote for myself anyway - Independent, Southern born & bred, Fiscally Conservative, Socially Liberal --- and mad as hell that there isn't a party to represent me
Don't make me throw up my good Pinot Ziggy! That is not making up, not even detente, just trying to be courteous to others on the forum. Do you remember Shirley Maclaine's line in Steel Magnolias? "I'm not crazy, I've just been in an extremely bad mood for 40 years." Well, that's me brother. My buttons are all pushed.
Didn't have to look it up catwoman. I knew it was wrong but I don't normally point out others mistakes, nor do I go looking for them. I like to think I have more class than that. But if someone else wants to play that game, I will, cause I've been around long enough, and seen enough pi**ing contest to know they will lose. Living 50+ years does have it's advantages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catwoman
I've also lived long enough to know if someone resorts to correcting grammar and spelling, then they lost the argument already.
I really wouldn't say one group or another had better grammar. Education has a lot to do with it and any group can have idiots as well as brilliance. Local also has a big play in it. What is brilliant knowledge in one place could be useless trivia in another. I'm sure you have a definitive answer on this but I'm not going to bite. I am instead going to wander out to my dock on this most beautiful evening and feed my fish, while contemplating the merits of salt on a margarita.
Carry on.
I said a few months ago that the only thing that could stop Romney was Rick Perry. Bachmann is not, nor has ever been, a serious threat to Romney.
But after a couple days on the campaign trail I don't see how he holds up against Romney. He's trying to manage the crazy/serious balance but it ain't easy. Maybe he'll get better.
Seriously??Quote:
Originally Posted by Catwoman
Lucky you! Buttons that get pushed are the fastest opening to self-insight in my book. I for sure know when I am in deep reactivity that there's something deeper than just the present issue going on. Thank goodness my sis is a therapist and had completely different buttons than I do - we can always call the other one for a good ol' deep down b*tch session, get it all out, then get to the root of what's really triggering us. It's very cathartic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catwoman
PS - what's Pinot Ziggy? Sounds like some kinda Grateful Dead vintage. ;~]
+1 from a guy who obviously doesn't spend a lot of time studying intimate details of the English language. And mtnlaural, when you find that party you let me know because our qualifications to join are nearly identical!Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnlaurel
Peggy - yes to salt.
We don't need Perry; he's another Bush and look how that turned out!
From what I've seen Perry is a lot farther out on the right wing than Bush ever was. I'm not sure the core of the Tea Party would have been so quick to rally behind Mr. Bush, but they seem to love Gov. Perry.
Rick Perry sounds way farther out to the right than he used to. IMO, it started with the secession thing. My view was, and still is, that this was simple pandering. He was going to face a primary challenge from a popular sitting (Republican) Senator and wanted to get to her right. It's the old Dick Cheney policy - don't get outflanked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregg
Please let it not be so.....
Jajajaja. From the back, you'd probably see Michelle Obama's vegetable garden replaced with an oil well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zigzagman
Please forgive me if I sound like a broken record but Rick Perry even being considered as a possible candidate for the Presidency is a telling event in itself. Complete Washington Post article here -
Attention Governor Perry: Evolution is a fact
Q. Texas governor and GOP candidate Rick Perry, at a campaign event this week, told a boy that evolution is ”just a theory” with “gaps” and that in Texas they teach “both creationism and evolution.” Perry later added “God is how we got here.” According to a 2009 Gallup study , only 38 percent of Americans say they believe in evolution. If a majority of Americans are skeptical or unsure about evolution, should schools teach it as a mere “theory”? Why is evolution so threatening to religion?
A. There is nothing unusual about Governor Rick Perry. Uneducated fools can be found in every country and every period of history, and they are not unknown in high office. What is unusual about today’s Republican party (I disavow the ridiculous ‘GOP’ nickname, because the party of Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt has lately forfeited all claim to be considered ‘grand’) is this: In any other party and in any other country, an individual may occasionally rise to the top in spite of being an uneducated ignoramus. In today’s Republican Party ‘in spite of’ is not the phrase we need. Ignorance and lack of education are positive qualifications, bordering on obligatory. Intellect, knowledge and linguistic mastery are mistrusted by Republican voters, who, when choosing a president, would apparently prefer someone like themselves over someone actually qualified for the job.
Any other organization -- a big corporation, say, or a university, or a learned society - -when seeking a new leader, will go to immense trouble over the choice. The CVs of candidates and their portfolios of relevant experience are meticulously scrutinized, their publications are read by a learned committee, references are taken up and scrupulously discussed, the candidates are subjected to rigorous interviews and vetting procedures. Mistakes are still made, but not through lack of serious effort.
The population of the United States is more than 300 million and it includes some of the best and brightest that the human species has to offer, probably more so than any other country in the world. There is surely something wrong with a system for choosing a leader when, given a pool of such talent and a process that occupies more than a year and consumes billions of dollars, what rises to the top of the heap is George W Bush. Or when the likes of Rick Perry or Michele Bachmann or Sarah Palin can be mentioned as even remote possibilities.
A politician’s attitude to evolution is perhaps not directly important in itself. It can have unfortunate consequences on education and science policy but, compared to Perry’s and the Tea Party’s pronouncements on other topics such as economics, taxation, history and sexual politics, their ignorance of evolutionary science might be overlooked. Except that a politician’s attitude to evolution, however peripheral it might seem, is a surprisingly apposite litmus test of more general inadequacy. This is because unlike, say, string theory where scientific opinion is genuinely divided, there is about the fact of evolution no doubt at all. Evolution is a fact, as securely established as any in science, and he who denies it betrays woeful ignorance and lack of education, which likely extends to other fields as well. Evolution is not some recondite backwater of science, ignorance of which would be pardonable. It is the stunningly simple but elegant explanation of our very existence and the existence of every living creature on the planet. Thanks to Darwin, we now understand why we are here and why we are the way we are. You cannot be ignorant of evolution and be a cultivated and adequate citizen of today.
Peace
Are we talking politics or evolution? Many dont agree that evolution is a fact. Is that why you dont like Perry, because he disagrees with you on evolution? Darwin never said why we are here. He said he thought how, but it was just a theory..........Quote:
Originally Posted by Zigzagman
Evolution was a theory put forth by Darwin. Others have developed the time line of human evolution. Here is a link to the time line of human evolution. Notice there is no theory mentioned in the time line of human evolution. Your religion may say something else like the earth was created in 7 days 6 thousand years ago but science says something else so believe what you want.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timelin...uman_evolution
I think a politicians position on different issues and the way they perceive the world is very important. When I see how Perry has handled issues in Texas it is very telling. He seems to be adamantly be anti-science, anti-education, anti-immigrant, anti-environment, anti-government, anti-homosexual, anti-choice, and the list goes on and on.Quote:
Originally Posted by poetry_writer
This person has no business being seriously considered for the POTUS.
Peace
I read a few days ago that Perry does not believe there is global warming. Can't give you a reference, but it's out there somewhere.
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Originally Posted by Zigzagman
we get it. you are anti Perry.
Perry according to new polls is the leading Republican candidate. That is probably good news for Obama. Obama is good at talking. In a debate Perry would be toast.
This was fun stuff to listen to today: http://www.npr.org/2011/08/24/139781...ritual-warfare
Ziggy, I see that another Texas luminary has come out in favor of Perry. Kinky Friedman say's "Hell yes, I'd vote for Perry".
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So would I support Rick Perry for president? Hell, yes! As the last nail that hasn’t been hammered down in this country, I agree with Rick that there are already too damn many laws, taxes, regulations, panels, committees, and bureaucrats. While Obama is busy putting the hyphen between “anal” and “retentive” Rick will be rolling up his sleeves and getting to work.
That's actually pretty interesting - Kinky was the third party candidate that split the vote in Texas when Perry won the Gov. with 36% of the vote. Ya never know about these things ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by alan
I guess I'll have to wait and see what "Willie" thinks about the "King of White Whine"!
Peace
If you'd like a glimpse of how Perry thinks and his priorities this is a good example. And take note of the fact that Perry thought Phil (ET) Gramm was an "economic genius". >:(
Rick Perry Sought State Profits From Teacher Life Insurance Scheme
It was a back-room deal at odds with Perry's public persona as a career politician who had successfully sold Texans on his vision of minimal government intrusion. And it still is. Nearly eight years after the meeting, when Perry formally announced his run for the presidency in Charleston, S.C., he honed that vision into the perfect applause line: "I'll promise you this," he had said in his West Texas drawl. "I'll work every day to try to make Washington, D.C. as inconsequential in your life as I can."
Death in Texas, on the other hand, is another matter. That first meeting with teacher groups and retirement plan officials in November 2003, recalled one attendee, was an effort by Perry's office to solicit support for the life insurance idea from teacher associations. There was little question who was promoting the plan.
"His office was pushing it," the source said. "It was like, 'We've got to do whatever we can. ... Here's an innovative idea. We really want you on board.'"
The governor's office was even prepared to put down a little cash up front. If retirees balked at the notion of the state profiting from their deaths, Perry's budget men suggested they could be persuaded for the cost of a pair of shoes, according to the meeting notes. If a retiree signed a contract allowing the state's teacher pension fund to buy life insurance on them, the governor was prepared to give them between $50 and $100.
Peace
"The governor's office was even prepared to put down a little cash up front. If retirees balked at the notion of the state profiting from their deaths, Perry's budget men suggested they could be persuaded for the cost of a pair of shoes, according to the meeting notes. If a retiree signed a contract allowing the state's teacher pension fund to buy life insurance on them, the governor was prepared to give them between $50 and $100." (zigzagman)
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Oh, yeah....I remember that....wasn't it called the "dead peasant policy"?
Also, there's this....
http://www.naturalnews.com/033410_Ri...ig_Pharma.html
Rick Perry - Big Pharma President?
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In February of 2007, the governor of Texas issued an executive order that bypassed the will of the Texas people and the entire legislature, mandating the vaccination of young girls -- in Grade 6 in Texas -- with the HPV vaccine Gardasil.
Merck, the pharmaceutical company in charge of the villainous venture and the chief distributor of the vaccine, was the same drug company that was reported to have given thousands of dollars to Perry's campaign efforts (http://www.politicolnews.com/gardas...).
The vaccine was given FDA approval in June 2006 then rushed to the market without proper testing through clinical trials, as more of an experiment than a vaccine that was proven effective. Only 8 months later Gov. Perry signed the executive order mandating this vaccine to all young girls (and later young boys were also made to be vaccinated).
By June 2008 there were multiple reports surfacing of girls having convulsions, going into comas and dying after being given the vaccine. Still, Perry did not remove his mandated vaccine law in Texas until he was finally forced to do so by lawmakers and parents that had given up their right to make their own decisions about the tremendous risk of the Gardasil vaccine and been wrongfully informed it was proven to prevent cervical cancer.
Sanger ISD is a small school district near Denton. The performers in the video are the Superintendent and other administrators. The skit was performed at the back to school employee convocation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1Umf...layer_embedded
Peace
That was awesome :-)
OMG - I googled Nehemiah Scudder and found out it was Robert A. Heinlein - If this goes on. The story is set in a future theocratic American society, ruled by the latest in a series of “Prophets.” The First Prophet was Nehemiah Scudder, a backwoods preacher turned President (elected in 2012), then dictator (no elections were held in 2016 or later).
How appropriate and something to ponder - Heinlein has been a visionary in his writings and although I doubt that most Amercians would accept a theocrarcy with the present tone and right-wing nuts out there I don't discount anything. Let's all just hope that the Confederate States (Bible Belt) do not control our destiny.
I hadn't heard that name (Heinlien) in decades but I immediately remembered his novel "Stranger in a Strange Land" from the my hippie days.
Peace
Rick Perry stood by his criticism of Social Security as a "Ponzi scheme." He said the entitlement program amounts to a "monstrous lie" for young Americans, the Houston Chronicle reports.
Come on, Please! Who votes for someone that thinks SS is a ponzi scheme, really? Are you sure? Are you sure, sure?
When I hear some of this stuff I feel like a "Stranger in a Strange Land". Let's all raise our hands and say we just hate SS and the wonderful things it does for all Americans.
Are we seriously thinking about electing this person as the leader of the free world?
PEace
Our government would prefer us to believe that SS is a "Pay as you go" system, only superficially related to a classic "pyramid" or "Ponzi scheme". But I gotta admit, I have a hard time telling the difference, even after reading the SSA's web page devoted to the subject. http://www.ssa.gov/history/ponzi.htm
Describing SS as a ponzi scheme by someone running for POTUS is ridiculous. And exactly who is that kind of rhetoric supposed to impress? or even try to defend?
What exactly is the point? To even include SS in the debt discussion is so lame. SS is a social contract with the citizens of this country. It is funded by payroll deductions and only holds non-negotiable government bonds backed by the full faith of this nation. Last time I looked it had about a $2.6 trillion dollar surplus. I might need tweaking but is certainly not a "ponzi scheme". That statement actually sounds like a HS debate subject.
I guess I am just amazed that this kind of statement by anyone with political ambition in this country. Pretty Sad.
Peace
Really? I find the difference rather obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by alan
{emphasis mine}
I don't know what differences you may see, but it seems fairly straight-forward to me.
The Social Security system is under intense pressure as its method of taking current workers' contributions to pay for current retirees is under strain. And it's that method, which resembles a Ponzi scheme.
I suppose it could be argued that it's not technically a Ponzi scheme because it's not constructed to intentionally de-fraud it's participants, but the likelihood that it will go belly-up at some point, leaving millions of people in the lurch, blurs that simple distinction.