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“Most six year olds will do as they are told” - LOL!
i teach.
if the child won’t wear his mask, he has to go home. If the child refused to wear pants, they would make him go home. And I personally don’t think a six year old in his underpants is a threat to others.
if his parents won’t make him wear a mask, they will have to homeschool him. If you are a nudist, you still can’t send your kid to school naked.
my school’s “mask breaks” are outside six feet apart.
I still have questions:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tybee
Where does someone's civil liberty to NOT wear a mask end and my civil liberty to NOT be infected by said person begin?
I still ponder the idea that if someone is deliberately NOT wearing a mask and they pass on the virus to someone who dies... is it murder? Possibly even premeditated murder? By now, everyone knows or should know what is going on and *choosing* not to wear a mask should mean that one is choosing to accept the consequences. It's still a matter of determining those consequences.
And, finally, does anyone know what has happened in any of the cases where legal action was taken against the various "15-minutes of fame" people who were charged for not wearing a mask and endangered someone/others? (i.e. the cancer patient who was spit on - I think that was one)
Since you have quoted me here, I will reply, but otherwise, I am best advised to stay off of this thread, as I find the discourse to be unhelpful and unpleasant.Quote:
Originally Posted by happystuff
I don't know the answer to the first question you ask, but find your reasoning quite frightening, that you want to charge someone with murder for not wearing a mask.
I am best staying away from this thread entirely, as people here seem to think it's fine to suspend a first grader on the first day of school, rather than to try to meet him where he is at, nurture him, and teach him, and to charge someone with murder for not wearing a mask. These are not reasonable positions to me, and in fact, I find them quite disturbing, so bowing out now.
No, I don't want to charge someone for murder for not wearing a mask. I am asking if someone should be charged with murder if their actions - not wearing a mask - result in the death of someone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tybee
Thanks, this is a good clarification. Good luck with discussing this further.
I think CL has it right. You send a kid home that won’t wear a mask. You don’t suspend them. I think not wearing a mask and purposely spitting on someone are 2 different things. The large stores here have security at the door and if you don’t have a mask they don’t let you enter.
It is a nebulous situation that you described. There’s not absolute and direct proof that someone wearing a mask actively or purposely passes this virus on to someone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by happystuff
The sick person may have got it from an entirely different source than from that person standing in front of them in line at the grocery store.
To your point about murder, intent is always a consideration in murder charges. First degree murder differs from manslaughter and murder charges because of intent.
Charges for negligence--like not properly securing a load, and a two-by-four flies off and kills someone in a following car? That seems similar.
Prove that my invisible airborne virus entered your airways and sure. But you have to prove it, an event that can’t be verified by eyesight.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
I'm always dismayed to see how many think it appropriate to use the state to punish people for what they may have done, or think, or say. It reminds me of a TV commercial from several years ago where the catch phrase was "That's not how this works! That's not how any of this works!"Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies