Iris lilies, how are things in your hood?

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Originally Posted by dmc

Anyone still doing business in these areas are nuts.

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And this is traditionally why folks living in areas like this have very little choice in merchants, goods, or pricing. (Google "food desert", for example.)

I'm amazed law enforcement, emergency medical services, and fire fighting services will even enter some areas these days, frankly.

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Originally Posted by bae

"Exit Wounds Indicate Brown Surrendered" - the story doesn't seem to be as conclusive as Rob claims. In particular, the crime reconstruction/ballistics expert making the statement is the family's lawyer:

"Lawyers for Brown's family said the results of of the preliminary autopsy support witness accounts that Brown was trying to surrender when he was shot.

"Why would he be shot in the very top of his head? A 6'4" man," attorney Daryl Parks said. "Makes no sense."


I have testified as a wound ballistics expert in court. From the information I've casually scene about the report, I could come up with a variety of scenarios. I'd want real data in front of me to make a real judgement, and I certainly wouldn't come to a conclusion and release it to the media in a press conference on such short order. Unless I knew nothing about wound ballistics and was a lawyer trying to make hay.

Rob, you are seeing only what you want to see, you are uninformed, and you have prejudged the entire business. Luckily, you'd never be allowed near a jury box for a case like this.

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I'm reading the news story on yahoo.com news, Bae. Seems pretty damning to me. But no, as I stated last night, I don't have all this knowledge of weaponry that you do - not all people do, Bae. And I'd be a great juror - I'm very into human rights and would have no problem in holding everything up to ask question after question after question and I would leave no stone unturned. A life has been lost here under questionable circumstances, I seem to be the only person on the board at the moment who "gets" that. It may be the evidence is released that makes the circumstances less questionable, I'll grant that. But this forensics release today? Pretty damning. Or at least that's how it's going to look to many people. Rob

Rob - "damning"? A simple opinion from one side's lawyer?

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Originally Posted by bae

Rob - "damning"? A simple opinion from one side's lawyer?

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No, my word choice entirely, Bae. Rob

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Originally Posted by Spartana

I will look up that link - thanks. Haven't heard any new evidence yet but if it's in that should cleat up a lot. And yes, there are rogue cops that do terrible things out of anger or stress or whatever. No one's denying that happens. You saw that when the police chief killed someone next to him in a movie theatre. And those LEO's should be brought to justice of course.

As for the reporters and rioting (a separate issue to the shooting IMHO). it's not just about protecting the reporters, it's about getting them to move the hell out of the way asap so that police can protect other civilians from harm as well as their property and quell a violent situation. Probably everyone who's ever worked in LE or public safety has had to arrest, detain or physically remove other's who are hindering their efforts to help others. Sometimes in order to do so you have to become physical if they are choosing to disobey the law.

PS Yep I'm still travelling but home at the moment to take care of some stuff/obligations. Will be leaving again soon I hope...like maybe tomorrow ;-)!

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Thanks, Spartana. As I've said before, I always love it when you respond to my posts. You have the rare ability to look at a situation like this and remain reasonable. Hope your further travels are safe and fun! Rob

Rob, on your response from.yesterday, no, I.didn't.see.where you had.called the deceased.a.thug.

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Originally Posted by Tradd

Rob, on your response from.yesterday, no, I.didn't.see.where you had.called the deceased.a.thug.

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Go back a few pages, Tradd, if you have the time and the interest. There are several posts in which I referred to the deceased as a thug - and he was. Strong arming that clerk and stealing those cigars? Something a thug would do. No doubt about that on my part. Rob

PS Came back to add, if you go to page 18, you can see in my response to your post that started with the words, Sweet Jesus, Rob - I responded to you on the same page and referred to the deceased as a thug in that post as well as in several others. Rob

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Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife

And I'd be a great juror -

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Rob - during voir dire, unless you perjure yourself, the questions asked by the attorneys will uncover your prejudices about the case and the parties, and you will likely be dismissed for cause.

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Originally Posted by bae

Rob - during voir dire, unless you perjure yourself, the questions asked by the attorneys will uncover your prejudices about the case and the parties, and you will likely be dismissed for cause.

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True. I'd have to lie to get on the jury and I wouldn't do that, Bae. But I'd still be a great juror IF it could happen. Which it couldn't, I agree with you. Rob

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Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife

Seems pretty damning to me.

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If you want to be on a jury you have to be able to distinguish facts from claims. The celebrity coroner said explicitly that the wounds did not answer those questions.

All it determined was he was shot from the front and been smoking dope. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/p...in-his-system/