You're confusing the right to an abortion with the right of a human being to live. One is outside the federal government's purview and the other is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
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You're confusing the right to an abortion with the right of a human being to live. One is outside the federal government's purview and the other is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
And you’re confusing the rights of actual existing human beings with the rights of a blob of cells that may one day become a human being.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
The fact that you prioritize the blob of cells over me, a living, breathing human being tells me all I need to know about your priorities.
Another reason NOT to vote republican!Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
Yes, I guess it does.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
I think empathy is a virtue better demonstrated than talked about.Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
Another problem with using “empathy” to advance a narrative of ethical superiority is that it fails to balance the moral equation. Forty-four hours of would be immigrants on Martha’s Vineyard is of great consequence, but years of the same in Brownsville or Del Rio need not be mentioned. The interests of student loan borrowers are a big deal, but the that of less affluent people who will have the burden thrust open them is not. People in safe neighborhoods will talk endlessly about a relative few cases of police violence or dismiss certain crimes as not worth prosecuting, never giving much thought to tens of thousands of victims of common, everyday crime.
That why my ilk and I tend not to give too much credence to virtue signaling or accusations of callousness stemming from such thinking.
Nature isn't as enamored of zygotes/fetuses as Republicans pretend to be, given the high percentage of natural abortions/miscarriages that occur as a matter of course. And Republicans drop the pretense as soon as the fetuses turn into actual human beings at birth. (You're on your own, kid!)
Is there some special program for Republicans to drop out of income taxes paid toward social services? I would like to know about that program. I’m not saying I would drop out, I’m just saying I would like to know about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
Now realistically, your broad brush theme that Republicans don’t pay taxes that support social welfare programs is silly. And then add on all of the faith-based programs out there (and if you think they do not exist, you arent looking) there certainly is societal support for children.
You could argue that it’s not enough and on that argument we could talk all day about what is “enough “but at least that is a rational conversation.
Republicans are famous for voting against social programs--at least in recent history--for example, the expanded child tax credit, which lifted a lot of children--albeit temporarily--out of poverty.
I don't know how faith-based programs work for children who aren't members of the congregation in question, or how sustainable they are, but it's clear they can't meet the nation's needs by themselves.
So apparently Abbott and DeSantis' ugly stunt wasn't even a new idea. They just dragged it out of the racist playbook from 60 years ago and updated it for modern times.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_Freedom_Rides
You have just proven the point ... you have no empathy. This diatribe proves it.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
Most faith based programs are open to all. They certainly were open to me when as a non-believing single parent I was looking for affordable daycare for my son. He attended nondenominational Christian, Adventist, and Baptist programs.
Indeed. And the definition of crimes not worth prosecuting can be mindboggling to me. For instance I know of some people who think that stealing national defense secrets and putting together and implementing a complex multi-pronged plan to overturn a valid election are crimes not worth investigating or prosecuting. Some of those people have even gone so far as to accuse others who would like to see investigation and, if warranted, prosecution of those crimes of attempting a "purge" of the criminals involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
Many crimes my city doesn't prosecute so the Chief can say crime is going down and get a good raise. I reported theft from a disabled person. They wouldn't even write up an incident report.
But the Chief did find an hour to come sit and stare at me the first time I met with the Board of Health to try to intimidate me into following the mask mandate. I guess civil offenses don't count towards his crime stats.
Police brutality! I hope you got it all recorded on your cell phone!Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
I didn't, but since then they got paranoid and now have an announcement at the start of every meeting that anyone recording the meeting must identify themself by name and address, although everything is already broadcast on local cable access TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
Republican rant?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
Why TO vote Republican?
Shoot, even I would consider voting for this gutsy, fun-loving candidate for Utah Senator! The medium is the message.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXyRPEscXCQ
There was a sane and sensible Republican in Washington--Kim Wyman--who, as secretary of state, defended the 2020 election against local election deniers. I was considering voting for her until I found out she had been hired away by the Biden administration. Oh well.Quote:
Originally Posted by catherine
Not enough info ... generalizations... would check further if I could vote for her. BUT at least her ad was not insulting or cutting anyone down.. which is something.
Oh, I was just responding to her unique way of messaging, not her messageQuote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
See desantis has a class action lawsuit filed against him for his duplicity in transporting Venezuelan migrants from Texas to Martha's vineyard. Why anyone considers desantis a good choice for anything is beyond me....
I wonder if the lawyer involved has a client or simply filed the lawsuit on his/her own?Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
Look it up... at least 3 migrants have filed so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
Only 3? I would think all 48 would have had multiple lawyers soliciting their permission by now, perhaps guaranteeing large cash settlements as an incentive.Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
News just broke….more to come?
More interesting will be the investigations into the lies they were told to coerce them onto the planes. Apparently they left a paper trail of a crudely done document promising stuff that wasn’t waiting for them. Wonder who made the decision to do that? Will Perla take the fall for it? I don’t know about texas law or federal law but Florida law is clear that lying to people to coerce them to cross state lines is a human trafficking violation.
Personally, I hope this ends with all of them being granted asylum. I'm sickened at the way they were treated and used for political advantage by Abbott and DeSantis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
I watched The De-Population Bomb on YT recently in which two snooty Republican sat around discussing how the little people (women) should step it up and have more babies, while admitting that more immigration was probably the answer to our rapidly declining population. But I guess cruelty toward desperate petitioners at the border plays better to their base.
Well, gotta give the Republicans credit. They run their human trafficking operations right out in the open, not lurking in the basement of a pizza parlor where nobody can see a thing.
True. The democrats were so secretive they ran their operation out of the NONEXISTENT basement of a pizza parlor.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
You can thank Trump for this trend; he never bothers to hide his criminality, knowing that he'll never have to pay for it. He never has.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
https://www.wsj.com/articles/texas-s...rd-11663689981Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Looks like trump should be worried… his special master is not behaving the way he wants. We can only hope….
Snippet..
But Dearie said that if Trump’s lawyers will not actually assert that the records have been declassified, and the DoJ makes an acceptable case that they remain classified, he will be inclined to regard them as classified.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-declassified
At least he's never stood in the middle of 5th Avenue and shot anyone yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
Well there's that. But I bet he envies Putin's ability to neutralize his enemies--quite a few lately--at a dizzying clip. :0!Quote:
Originally Posted by catherine
trump and 3 of his kids accused of business fraud by New York AG.... hope they get more than a slap!!!!!!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ag/ar-AA125qry
It's a civil case, not criminal. I'm guessing that's because there's not enough there there for anything more.Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
Wait...Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...es/ar-AA126ekS
Plus he has so many other cases in the works. I don't see how he can come through unscathed (nor should he because he is not supposed to be above the law).
I wonder if the Trump haters, all of them and me included would take this deal with the devil:
Trump goes away permanently from politics in exchange for dropping all of the current, outstanding legal issues against him everywhere.
For me, that is a deal I would take in a New York minute.
I would LOVE to see him gone in any way possible but feel he should have to pay the price as anyone else would have to pay. he is not special.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
I'm not a Trump-hater, as such.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
However, I do believe that if you do the crime, you should do the time. And not be able to use your wealth, power, and the fear you inspire to avoid justice.
If he did anything, let's follow the same process that any other citizen would go through and see how that goes.