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I'm more than happy to have goods delivered, but if I were to go out I'd be masked and distant. I'm not even close to being "bored to death" yet, though I miss my favorite discount grocer. I'll be glad when this is all over (if ever), but I'm good for the foreseeable future.
This came through in my email via MedPage.. I didn't know about Great Barrington v John Snow proposals for dealing with the balance of infection risk v economic impact risk. It's an interesting opinion piece. Apparently there are two petitions supporting each approach and the op ed author is arguing that this is not an issue that should be put to a vote.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/blogs/v...ly_News_Update
Jeppy I wonder what you have to say about the following anecdotal observation:
In my immediate neighborhood I see many good Doobies out exercising around our park. Many of them wear masks while walking their dogs, jogging, walking around the park which is a common 1 mile track.
Also while out and about and doing my 1 mile track, I see many discarded face masks on the ground. Yesterday I counted four. Why is it that the good Doobies are unable to use a trash receptacle. Notice, no question mark at the end of that last sentence because yes, it’s a statement that I think they’re little pigs.
Under normal circumstances, in non-Covid times, I would bend over and pick up those four masks and carry them to the trash bin. But not now of course, I’m not gonna trust touching the discarded masks of the goody two shoes who are wearing them while outside. What pigs they are.
IL, it’s like people that don’t pick up their dog poop. How can people be so entitled? Ugh!
that's your interpretation, that it's about boredom, although all i can recall is you whining about not being able to buy clothing and shoes during lockdown.Quote:
The author also makes the excellent point that people who can stay home should, have things delivered. Yet in these forums multip!e individuals have said you can't expect high risk groups like the elderly to stay home because they will get bored. I guess they think "dying of boredom" is more fatal than dying of covid. More fuzzy math.
It's about basic human needs. That old people have needs to socialize too. And sometimes if the dentist thinks they may have a tumor to get dental surgery, mom got the surgery but it was cultured and wasn't a tumor. I wanted to lock my mom up early on but months later I'm glad I didn't. California is doing better than most states right now, we did not lift all measures of course, some stuff is still closed. Mom mostly just goes to the bank and the store, it's not some exciting life. She thanks me and bf profusely for visiting (outdoors). If she dies of it, well living under a rock permanently (this is not a whine about complying with short term health measures or bars and restaurants being closed - that is small sacrifices, but rather older people having to sacrifice EVERYTHING) can't be done.
Noone can name any country on earth that protected older people while having widespread spread (certainly not Sweden), it doesn't even work, not on a social level, sure a given individual might be able to hide. But as policy - IT DOESN'T WORK. So I suspect, it's just a form of ageism, doesn't work, but you can hate the elderly for being human.
Stuff could be delivered. Yea that only makes sense if the risk of the person doing one's shopping are less than one's own risk. If one is 80 they probably are, it's certainly understandable, but otherwise even if one has a young person delivering, young people can have long lists of preexisting conditions and social risk factors too or live with older people who do as well.
I read that 40% of those in the USA have some sort of designation that places them in the high risk category. It’s not just the old folks.
Well, COVID is getting very close to home. The village where I live has 2 utility workers and the village clerk testing positive. The village office is 3 blocks from my home. I know others who have had COVID and one who was on a ventilator. Glad my freezer is full!
And some unfortunates have had fatal or long-lasting consequences with no apparent risk factors at all. It's like some grotesque game of Russian roulette.
FWIW, I really doubt that wearing masks causes complacency. A mask is just uncomfortable and annoying enough to make the wearer very aware if they have it on or not.
Of course, I’m only out and about a couple of times a week now, once for grocery shopping for myself and 2 neighbors, and once to run another neighbor to her dr appointments, and I run to the hardware store for a myriad of people while I wait for her. Most of the people who are also out likely fall into these same categories and I’m a boomer and there are a whole lot of us. Anyway, what I observe is people being careful to wear a mask in the vicinity of other people. Again, it may well be that generation of respect thing, but that’s what I see. Even at the Star$$$ drive thru, as they approach the window, the mask goes on.
Incidentally, here in California, most of the “old people” who have died of C19 were in congregate care facilities. Since they’ve gotten those under control, the most new cases, including deaths, are in the 20-40 yr old range. But even those are significantly down here now. It’s pretty simple really, wear a mask, save a life- might be your own!
Like mschrisgo says I don’t think I’m more complacent wearing a mask. If anything it’s a constant reminder of what’s going on.