Conavirus......

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Originally Posted by Yppej

My father's cousin just died from covid. Relatives are not surprised as she was in her 70's and refused to curtail her traveling despite the pandemic.

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My condolences. I'm sorry to hear about that.

From what ever the news reports, the community spread fatalities or severe illness are almost always people who are not using simple common safety recommendations and are typically overweight, and then are regretful.

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Originally Posted by JaneV2.0

I'm not a fan of unnecessary or excessive immunizations, and from what I gather the COVID vaccines they've developed so far have limited effectiveness, but it's a start. The paranoia out there would be funny if it weren't so pervasive.

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Moderna and Pfizer are reporting 90-95% effective. That doesn't seem limited?

Doesn't it remain to be seen how long vaccine-induced immunity lasts? People are contracting COVID for a second time even with natural immunity, which is kind of disheartening.

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Originally Posted by JaneV2.0

Doesn't it remain to be seen how long vaccine-induced immunity lasts? People are contracting COVID for a second time even with natural immunity, which is kind of disheartening.

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I thought this was to be expected? That this is sort of like the flu - you can get it more than once. Sorry, I don't know where I read it, but I thought Covid-19 was already exhibiting even slight mutations - again, like the flu.

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Originally Posted by happystuff

I thought this was to be expected? That this is sort of like the flu - you can get it more than once. Sorry, I don't know where I read it, but I thought Covid-19 was already exhibiting even slight mutations - again, like the flu.

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Supposedly, you're immune to strains of influenza you've already had--thus flu shots. It remains to be seen if we'll have to get COVID immunizations every few months, as it is so much more deadly than the flu.

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Originally Posted by Yppej

My father's cousin just died from covid. Relatives are not surprised as she was in her 70's and refused to curtail her traveling despite the pandemic.

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Condolences to family and friends.

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Originally Posted by happystuff

I thought this was to be expected? That this is sort of like the flu - you can get it more than once. Sorry, I don't know where I read it, but I thought Covid-19 was already exhibiting even slight mutations - again, like the flu.

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The Corona virus is mutating. Does it matter...

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02544-6

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Originally Posted by JaneV2.0

Doesn't it remain to be seen how long vaccine-induced immunity lasts? People are contracting COVID for a second time even with natural immunity, which is kind of disheartening.

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It has not been determined that "natural immunity" exists.

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Originally Posted by Gardnr

It has not been determined that "natural immunity" exists.

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At least not past a couple of weeks. Perhaps Trump should consider that, as the WH seems to be a hotbed of infection.

I'm glad new, more effective (and attractive) masks are being developed--we may be wearing them for the foreseeable future.

There is a common theory I've seen that they are calling the "swiss cheese" theory that relies on several things. If the virus gets through one level of protection (hole in the cheese I guess) it will be caught by the next. I think for the near future to get things under control it won't just be a vaccine, but a combination of vaccines, mask and social behavior, contact tracing, testing, and self isolation, etc. By the time us commoners get access to a vaccine we will probably have a lot more information to choose the right one or decide upon the various risks.