Conavirus......

I heard today the Pfizer vaccine has worse side effects than a flu vaccine. It is more like a shingles vaccine. There is some speculation after one such shot people will not want a second one, so people will be 50% not 95% protected.

My shingles shot was worse than any previous one I had, and I had decided I probably don't want another one but will take my chances.

So the prospect of a covid vaccine is not inviting. I would still get it if there is a "vaccine passport" I have heard some discussion of, and if said passport does not depend on having a smart phone since I don't, and if the passport would let me do everything I did pre-pandemic - travel, not wear a mask, etc. If I am undergoing a painful procedure twice I should have some rights that people who only get one shot or no shot at all don't have.

You don’t get a vaccine just for yourself. You get it so the people that are too immune compromised to get one are protected like kids with cancer as one example.

I had no reaction at all to the shingles vaccine (or any other vaccine for that matter), so I will approach the covid vaccine with cautious optimism.

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Originally Posted by Teacher Terry

You don’t get a vaccine just for yourself. You get it so the people that are too immune compromised to get one are protected like kids with cancer as one example.

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Yes, any decision should go beyond personal discomfort and include social responsibility.

I had a moderately unpleasant reaction to the shingles vaccine, like a hangover or mild flu symptoms for two or three days. If, by the time covid vaccine availability trickles down to me, any side effects are not severe and only last a few days I can tough it through. We'll know more later and there will probably be more vaccines approved by then.

The people I know who are not seniors and have been diagnosed with covid have all been asymptomatic. The cure seems worse than the disease on average for this age group. So I agree older and high risk people should be vaccinated first. If we really have this massive community spread all the news outlets are talking about by the time they are all vaccinated maybe the rest of us won't need to be. Theoretically if by say the end of February no one is dying or being hospitalized because we've achieved herd immunity naturally wouldn't that be a great thing for everyone but the pharmaceutical companies?

It would be great but it’s not going to happen. Too many people say they aren’t going to take it. If we really have massive community spread??? Hospitals are starting to reach max capacity like Los Robles, CA and Utah is getting close as are we. People with cancer aren’t getting surgery or chemo timely in some places because of this. Not sure what planet you live on.

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Originally Posted by Yppej

I heard today the Pfizer vaccine has worse side effects than a flu vaccine.

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Where's your data?

Take your time....

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Theoretically if by say the end of February no one is dying or being hospitalized because we've achieved herd immunity naturally wouldn't that be a great thing for everyone but the pharmaceutical companies?

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you are still off on this nonsense aren't you. Yea, yea don't confuse you with the facts, you have made up your mind, months ago. It's still only a small percentage of the population that has had it, with hospitals overwhelmed and unable to treat people. But what if we had 3 more months of hospitals unable to take patients and just continuing to let them many of them die untreated for 3 months straight, because we had that much spread, might we have herd immunity BY THEN? I really doubt it.

The Spanish flu only infected a third of the world's population before herd immunity was achieved. You do not need to infect 100% of people to achieve herd immunity and for a virus to die off.

I wish there was a vaccine for foolishness.

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