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JP1: Also I think part of the happiness level while aging is acceptance and that can be difficult. Things like noticing that physically you do not look the same, feel the same, etc. I had a few years before 60 that I struggled with that somewhat but then realized there was no alternative. There was no fountain of youth:~).
this site does not allow me to trim quotes anymore so I'll just comment. Williamsmith, that poor new guy, I hope he honed his skills after all that but I would be gun shy (no pun intended) to ever be in charge of another suicide. Why is shooting out the criminal's tires bad? You stop the car chase and he is not shot (hopefully) in the process.
Teacher Terry- God bless your mom
I'm all for programs for physician assisted suicide such as the plan in place in Oregon. The trouble to me is what if you are at the end stage of the disease (say ALS or dementia) and can no longer communicate your wishes? If I got ALS, I would like to think I would take the med cocktail and not even tell my family, let them think I died in my sleep. But that's a lot sooner than when I would actually like to end it (when I can no longer speak, move, eat). I don't know if I would have the nerve to do it when I'm still feeling pretty well.
there were times someone was actively dying and I suspected the family of giving higher doses of morphine and ativan than were prescribed but these were patients who only had a week or so to live and were totally out of it. I looked the other way and never discussed it. However, one wife was in a problematic marriage with her dying spouse. He was not dying on her time table and she was done. He could still walk and talk and had no desire to kill himself. She gave him a whole bottle of liquid morphine and ativan and he died. The nurse who had him flat out said it was murder, she was laughing about it and cracking jokes. Unbelievable. I did express my feeling to my manager that I wasn't aware we did not one thing when a patient is murdered, but management swept it under the rug. I was ready to make an anonymous tip to the police but I am certain I would've lost my job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teacher Terry
Strange how this thread has become a discussion of suicide.
yeah, how did we get here? Probably something I said, lol
freshstart....on the new guy. It is often the case that someone is in a temporary state of being out of control, either due to drugs, alcohol, mental illness or criminal psychopathy. All it takes is for someone representing a position of authority to show up on the scene and they make their last great final statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by freshstart
There really is not much an average street officer can say. It is more what not to say. I suspect most outcomes are already decided before you even arrive. For whatever reason, this guy had an unlucky streak. He did find his niche. He is the director of computer forensics for western Pennsylvania and as such has had a hand in many important cases. We are still good friends.
Shooting from a moving vehicle is problematic. Shooting at a moving vehicle from a moving vehicle is usually considered not within the range of expertise of the average patrolman and at worst could be reckless endangerment of the general public. However, in the case, the guy knew how to handle a shotgun, all other attempts to get the vehicle stopped had failed, we were in a rural environment, the suspect was shooting at us and in the end it worked out perfectly.
Unfortunately, some zealous administrators decided to make an example and instead what they did was permanently ruin a young officers attitude for the rest of his career. He should have gotten a commendation but instead got reprimanded.
UA,
In a way, this thread has always been about suicide. Just suicide of the Republican Party. I do think that assisted Suicide in the case of the GOP would be widely accepted at this point. It is pretty clear the party needs a big dose of something to put thm out of their misery.
The WAMC is going to have a great big laugh today. Mitt Romney is upset about Donald Trump, well let's be clear.....he was okay with Donald Trump when he endorsed him for grand Puba of the GOP last time. But not so much now.
Now Mitt thinks he has to step in and smack the back of Donald's hand with a ruler and wash his mouth out with soap. I guess Trump has stepped over the bounds of civility with his language and maybe wasn't quick enough to disavow the KKK or smoking and drinking or infidelity or all manner of Latter Day Saints Sins for all we know.
Yes, Mitt, that same fellow that Obama used to wipe up the symbolic floors of all America with.....that Loser of all losers, the inventor of ObamaCare, the captain of Bain Capitol, graduate of the salt of the earth Harvard University, Governor of liberal Massachusetts, and that Mormon.......is going to set things straight.
Well, Mom, pull up your recliner and pass the Budweiser. This one is going to be good.
Mom, did you know that Trump is a phony and a fraud? And that we are just a bunch of suckers? Yeah, he has been taking advantage of us weak minded middleclass people. It has all been a hoax. The guy is a con artist...and we are his victims.
You know how we thought all along that we were just pissed off at the GOP for ripping us off and not doing anything to represent our interests? Well, that's not how it ever was. Here all along it was the GOP establishment guys that are fit to lead.
What else is he saying PA?
Well, believe it or not mom, Trump is not like all the other good and honest guys of the GOP. He is actually dishonest and untrustworthy. Yeah, Trump is more like Putin. Not what we need. We need another George W. Bush.
Mom, you shouldn't fall off your chair laughing......you could get hurt...or spill your beer.
Wow, they don't get it. They think we care who wins the election.
Mom, have you seen the remote control....
....or spill your beer, lol
I am for assisted suicide. I don't blame that young woman for moving to Oregon when she had brain cancer. FS: that is the problem with something like ALS by the time you want to do it you re no longer physically capable or go too soon. Ugh!
For physical illness but not mental illness?Quote:
Originally Posted by Teacher Terry