In my state, I'm a criminal if I put more than 10 of these little metal links together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tradd
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In my state, I'm a criminal if I put more than 10 of these little metal links together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tradd
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Originally Posted by Tradd
But it is true that the state of Illinois WILL see visitors from my state because my state does not allow abortion at all unless to save the health of the mother. St. Louis will be sending many people over to Fairview Heights IL.
In what scenario would you need to do so?Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
You'll probably be fine as long as you don't accessorize them.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
Prolly not only "bat shit crazy" but an "asshat", too. Yup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
Does the GOP currently have a platform? I went to the GOP national website, and there's a link there, but it only goes to the organization's business rules. There seems to be no trace of policy.
https://gop.com/about-our-party/
I looked at it recently, say, within a couple of weeks. It was very very long. I’ll see if I can find it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
There was something on it, or a recent meeting of the GOP, that censored Liz Cheney.>:(
They're perfectly legal if you pierce your eyes and nose, and hang those metal pieces in/on them. Hope that helps you some. Thankk Mee.Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
I get that same screen now, the platform has disappeared. That’s not a good thing for being a few days before the national election.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
I understand he’s a BSC Canadian who overstayed his visa by twenty years or so in a sanctuary city to enjoy the superior opportunities for violence and mind altering substances available there.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlebittybobby
It is really surprising how many “successful “people are Canadian here in these United States. Mr. Money Mustache himself is a refugee from Canada.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
Maybe we can blame the Russians?Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
https://www.npr.org/2021/07/06/10135...onal-committee
That was over a year ago; we can probably let the Russians off the hook. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
Also, one of my favorites--Ali Velshi.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
They were not successful THAT time.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
I am kind of kidding here, mostly kidding. But you never know.
I think their propaganda and baroque rumor-mongering efforts are more effective, but I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
Right? I was just trying to do due diligence before voting.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
Bother.
Yes. They are master manipulators. Look how they’ve rallied the world to their cause in Ukraine.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
They do seem to be struggling. They must have stopped paying their Nigerian trolls, who have disappeared. Their QAnon followers, however, remain steadfast.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
Even more maddening, there is no “contact us “option on the GOP website. The national GOP website has no way to contact the webmaster.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
So I wrote to chairman@gop.com telling them their website is down. I don’t know if that is a real address, but I risked it since that’s how my state GOP chairman’s email address is formatted.
I also wrote to my GOP party in Missouri to tell them to pass on a message to the national GOP.
It almost makes me want to not vote for the Republicans because they are technologically incompetent!
Strange, because I was able to access the GOP party platform, both the "short version" and then the whole platform.
https://gop.com/about-our-party/
After having read it, I'm still sure it's not a good fit for me.
But, at 92 pages, I'm not sure the Democratic Party platform is for me either, because I can't be bothered reading it.
https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/
Edited.
I wonder if I need to clear cookies and try it again.
I cleared cookies, and this time it did lead me to a “contact us” function but I still can’t get the navy blue “learn more “ key to link to the platform. It links to the rules and resolutions.
Attachment 4923
I cleared the cache several times, and tried different browsers, and am still just getting a like to the 48-page Party Rules, which say nothing about policy, just meeting procedures and business rules and such.
Yes, That’s what I get.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
That's what I get, too. I found this odd website by searching around, wondering if this has replaced the platform somehow:Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
https://www.republicanleader.gov/commitment/
But it's not a platform, and not what Catherine referenced, which I would really like to see, too.
That wasn’t a platform. It was just a few hollow platitudes.Quote:
Originally Posted by catherine
Beyond the hollow platitudes, if you look hard enough you can find the 2016 party platform. I swear I read the 2020 one just yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Here's the link to the 2016 one. https://prod-static.gop.com/media/Re...748.1667572648
At this point, it looks to me that the Tuesday vote will not so much be a referendum on democracy as a referendum on the Democrats.
The sad thing is how soon the 2024 campaign will commence thereafter.
I’m hoping the handlers for President Joe Biden see this as the time to gently ease the old guy out of his idea of running in 2024.But if we are left with Kamala, ugh. Double ugh.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
Democrats, PLEASE step up to give us a viable candidate. Honestly, at this point and I hate to admit this but if it were Hillary Clinton versus Donald Trump I’d vote for Hillary. This does not mean put up Hillary as a candidate. Her time has passed.
Iris, can you think of someone whom you see as a viable Democratic candidate, other than Biden or Harris?Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
I just looked online to see who the media sees as top contenders, here are some names
Roy Cooper. Frankly, I feel stupid, but I never heard of him
Cory Booker.
Gretchen Whitmer
Amy Klobuchar
Bernie Sanders
Elizabeth Warren
Gavin Newsom
Pete Buttigieg
Kamala Harris
Joe
If I recall correctly they didn’t make a 2020 platform. They either just reused the 2016 one identically or they didn’t bother adopting a platform at all. In hindsight it’s obvious why. The only platform their party’s leader had in 2020 was to stay in office. Period. Regardless of the results of the election.Quote:
Originally Posted by catherine
The closest thing they have to a platform today was a document put out a few months ago by Rick Scott and quickly disavowed by most Republican politicians because when they speak the truth about things like wanting to raise taxes on poor people and destroy the two most popular government programs of all time and take away women’s freedom it doesn’t tend to be a good way to win votes.
I like these three a lot:
Klobuchar
Sanders
Warren
Any of them would be great.
Bernie Sanders is too damn old, it would be the same problem we have now. Sure, I would vote for a 70 year old Bernie but that shipped sailed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tybee
It would be extremely painful for me to vote for Warren, but I would do it vs Trump. Klobucher, I suppose, I have not paid that much attention to her. Pete Buttigieg is likesble.
The Dems let their best candidate slip through their slimy fingertips, Tulsi Gabbard. I would have enthusiastically voted for her over several Republican ones.
Maybe now you'll get a chance to vote for Tulsi as a republican.
If Trump runs against her in the primaries, I would hope Tulsi would win, but unfortunately Trump has a lot of people mesmerized.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
ETA: Seems Tulsi is in bed with the Trump camp... she's stumping for Kari Lake.
It would be good for Tulsi to join Andrew Yang’s 3rd party initiative.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
She’s been campaigning for a number of Trumpier candidates. Even weirdos like Bolduc in New Hampshire, who I understand has been closing the gap in the polls. I’ve heard a couple of pundits say that if he squeaks through on election night that will be an early indicator of how well the GOP will do overall.Quote:
Originally Posted by catherine
Hmmm.... poking around and trying to learn more about my Vermont candidates before I vote, I learned more about the candidate that seems to have started being Independent but wound up on the Republican ticket.
Here's his story: https://rebirthdemocracy.com/liams-story-1
I like the idea that he's really a crossover candidate. He isn't a cartoon of the two sides. I have decided that I am going to go against the favored Democratic candidate for Congress and vote for this guy.
Does it mean I'm not playing the game strategically, because every vote for a Republican congressman is a vote for the GOP to take over the House? Yes.
Cory Booker is ok but comes across as a weirdo (a benign weirdo but a weirdo nontheless), weirdos are ok with me, but don't sell well as Presidential candidates. Sanders is kind of too old, but I know that many people would support him even so as he is a fighter and has convictions and consistently fights for them. Warren would probably govern decently but her campaign went nowhere. Gavin Newsom is an ok governor (I'm under no illusion he is fantastic, but he's alright). He's extremely popular in California it seems (I think all the nonsense we have had to endure from Republicans including a nonsense recall has just boosted his popularity very high because he looks extremely good in comparison). But I don't know if Newsom's appeal plays elsewhere.