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Those who have argued it is not high risk is just because of supposedly good ventilation on planes, and anyway it's relative risk. Of course it's best to limit time indoors with others, to as little time and as few people as well one can endure I guess.
But the average plane may be no more risky than the average office, which probably has quite poor ventilation indeed, just one may have a lot more choice about getting on a plane than going to the office.
I saw on the news tonight that 10% of those surveyed have felt suicidal in the past 30 days and the figure is 25% for those aged 18 to 24. This was part of a story about a young man who did commit suicide. There is a lot of emphasis on protecting older people in the pandemic. How helpful would it be in saving younger lives if we could get a vaccine passport that would enable us to return to maskless, free life as it was pre-covid rather than waiting months? years? forever? for a herd immunity that may never come as a third of people don't want the vaccine?
Young people are dying, too. My colleague reported on Monday, after the obligatory team small talk "How was your Christmas?" that her brother died of COVID. He was middle-aged with kids. His whole family was sick, but they recovered.
Yes, my DS and I just had that conversation. He is depressed. He's very outgoing, and he had vibrant life in the restaurant industry with a side gig as a musician. He would meet friends several times a week at bars. He would meet dates on Bumble. He knows that he just has to get through a few months of dreary winter and hopefully by spring, COVID will be on the downswing. He at least has his parents to hang out with and a couple of months of savings from the stimulus package, but obviously that's not optimal for a 36 year old.
The risk is on both sides. You mitigate the risks by encouraging less spread (i.e. masks and social distancing) and also by providing support for those who need it. Ignoring the risks in the name of keeping the status quo is not going to help the mental health of the population at large when the numbers of the sick and dead rise exponentially.
Time will tell whether people who get vaccinated can still be carriers. I certainly hope they can’t because otherwise the people who refuse the vaccine are destined to either get covid or have to lead money lives. And if they are going to get covid that means the healthcare system will be stressed for a long time which will affect all of us.
There's a lot of assumptions that feeling suicidal is about restrictions or economic pain etc.. Yea sure all of that is distressing and maybe it is so for the 18-24 crowd.
But also living in a society where masses of people are dropping everyday from this thing also depresses people not to mention if they know people that are currently sick or worse and at this point that's a lot of people that know someone, but even if they don't just the awareness that it is going on is a bummer. But no reason to kill yourself? I'm not sure feeling suicidal necessarily tracks that closely with actual suicide though, it might just be a way of saying being depressed/distressed.
Last summer I learned that there were two suicides at the toney retirement center here in st louis. At least one of them jumped from a third or four story building. It’s the isolation that got them.Quote:
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I saw members of Congress, some I recognize as Democrats, crouched down hoping to avoid rioters. None of them were wearing masks. Do as I say not as I do.
Personally if I had a bunch of terrorists coming after me with plans of show trials and executions the last thing I'd be worried about would be my damn mask. Sometimes one has to prioritize what actions are needed to maintain one's safety.Quote:
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this is kind of entertaining...Quote:
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By what standard? Times of terror?Quote:
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