Russia/Ukraine?

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So here's the danger of confirmation bias with regard to Trumpers: A FB friend posted "Funny--we didn't have any wars between 2017-2021" How many Trumpers will use this event to boost belief in Trump's efficacy as a President?

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one problem being it's not even true of course. I mean it depends on what the definition of war is. Wasn't there bombing in Iraq and Syria in war with ISIS (and the u.s. and russia were there), massive bombing in Afghanistan. The whole Yemen thing which the U.S. was maybe not directly in, but absolutely provided support for and that's not even contested. But the type of people that make those posts probably have minimal interest in anything more than scoring political points. So information, don't confuse them with that. U.S. military involvement during Trump did not get a lot of press or attention. I mean there was some attempt of cover up, but it's less that than just didn't generate a lot of interest.

It's sounding like it could be a short war, although those have been grossly mistaken words in other instances.

It's interesting how the importance of oil has played into sanctions and other political maneuvers. A common issue with other international wars of dominance. If Putin's motive i to restore the Russian empire, it's concerning that this is just an isolated take over attempt.

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

It’s interesting that upon getting this news so many people’s thoughts went immediately to Trump. If the Russians can occupy Ukraine as effectively as Trump has occupied their minds, the Ukrainians are in for dark days indeed.

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Because of tRump’s comments on how Putin was a genius. You must have missed that?

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Originally Posted by happystuff

Haven't human beings learned anything? So, so sad.

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More ways to kill one another and spend money.
Fixed it for you.

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Originally Posted by frugal-one

Because of tRump’s comments on how Putin was a genius. You must have missed that?

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Didn’t miss it at the time, but I’m not so obsessed that it was the first thing I wanted to talk about when the most significant conflict in Europe in our life time commenced.

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

Didn’t miss it at the time, but I’m not so obsessed that it was the first thing I wanted to talk about when the most significant conflict in Europe in our life time commenced.

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Hey, this needs to be addressed. Supposed “republicans” saying Putin is a genius for trying to takeover a neighbor. WTH This type of talk is not acceptable encouraging others (ie tRump’s rabid followers) here to spout this undemocratic rhetoric. The garbage sprouted by tRump is also being broadcast in Russia. Heresy!

Trump/Putin fanboys and their army of RT trolls are having a field day. I don't see how anyone can dig up a single excuse for this invasion.

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

Didn’t miss it at the time, but I’m not so obsessed that it was the first thing I wanted to talk about when the most significant conflict in Europe in our life time commenced.

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Some agreement. It's rather hard to avoid quibbling over divided American politics, but bigger issues are around global stability, unbridled Russian aggression, oil supplies, and economic implications. Focusing on Trump or weak democrats is rather myopic, but not totally irrelevant. There are a number of other international politics in play.

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Originally Posted by JaneV2.0

Trump/Putin fanboys and their army of RT trolls are having a field day. I don't see how anyone can dig up a single excuse for this invasion.

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Who is digging up excuses? Besides the invaders themselves, that is?

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

Who is digging up excuses? Besides the invaders themselves, that is?

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Unamerican assholes like Elise Stefanik, the #3 house republican.

"After just one year of a weak, feckless, and unfit President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief, the world is less safe. Rather than peace through strength, we are witnessing Joe Biden's foreign policy of war through weakness. For the past year, our adversaries around the world have been assessing and measuring Joe Biden's leadership on the world stage, and he has abysmally failed on every metric. From kinetic and deadly attacks on our allies and partners, to the catastrophic withdrawal and surrender in Afghanistan, to the cyber attacks impeding American industry and infrastructure, to today's Russian invasion of Ukraine, Joe Biden and his Administration have failed America and the world."