The pardons for January 6th, 2021 participants.....

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Originally Posted by Tybee

I see it differently. I think he is shocked by what is going on, as I am, and is afraid of what may happen. I agree with the need to look ahead, and not to keep saying, oh, this guy doesn't mean it, it won't be that bad, he's just saying things for effect--I think there is so much denial going on, and Rob is correct to be worried about the future of our country right now.

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Tybee, Thank You for getting it. This is exactly where I am coming from. I see an uncomfortable number of parralels to 1938 Austria and I'm understanding better these days how things could progress to where they did. I don't see this ending well, and furthermore - France and Germany both basically told DJT *diplomatically, of course, to back off. And having allies actually need to take such a stance - and to threaten Panama - and many Americans find this acceptable? This country truly is the Twilight Zone, where is Rod Serling when you need him?

Rob

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Originally Posted by bae

Where will you be going?



As previously discussed, there’s no way to “split” this country without rivers of blood. I would not “hope” for such an outcome.

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We may end out with rivers of blood regardless due to DJT's Expansionist Rhetoric and disregard for the sovereignty of other nations. Rob

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Originally Posted by iris lilies

I find Rob’s salivating excitement for this bloodshed and grief to be juvenile.

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I feel no such excitement. I find all this that I post inevitable given human nature and given the givens. YMMV. Rob

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Originally Posted by sweetana3

It will just enable the "sovereign citizens", Proud Boys, posse comitatus, and such groups to grow and endanger all others. I have seen what they do since the 1970s when I was working in government.

The crazies are going to get more crazy and dangerous.

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I agree that the crazies are going to become more extreme and more emboldened.

I think of Nicholas Maduro recently threatening to "liberate" Puerto Rico (oddly enough he mentioned the assistance of the Brazilian military - huh? He has no.power over the Brazilian military?).....Now this threat I didn't take seriously except for the fact that it's more inflammatory rhetoric when the world is becoming more unstable every day.

Eventually things are going to go too far with horrible consequences. Rob

One thing I am doing is donating to causes that protect organizations telling the truth about history, like the National Holocaust Museum and fighting anti-Semitism. I am hoping that by educating people about what happens when people use scapegoating and starting rounding up people and tearing families apart, it may turn some hearts away from the rhetoric that the new administration is employing.