I guess I missed the part where Stacy called for violence. Trump has already done so. And will undoubtedly do so again in November. I fear that your post won’t age well. But again I hope I’m wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
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I guess I missed the part where Stacy called for violence. Trump has already done so. And will undoubtedly do so again in November. I fear that your post won’t age well. But again I hope I’m wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
Ahh, you didn't mention that, at least in this thread. The comparison to Stacy Abrams came as a response to this post:Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
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That certainly wouldn’t be outside his style. But no, I don’t think that’s the tactic he will take. More likely he’ll ratchet up the ‘rigged election’ BS to maximum volume in an attempt to metaphorically burn the country down on his way out.
I was responding to ldahl’s comparison/ false equivalence of stacy’s reaction to her election results to the likely results for trump in November.
We were downtown and had to leave a restaurant quickly because of a protest and fire. We have a very small black community.
Hopefully the protest didn’t include cops running over people with their cars like happened in Brooklyn today and like the trump fanboy did a couple of years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teacher Terry
I unfortunately have no clue.
So you don’t believe in the rule of law and trials to determine innocence or guilt. Got it. Glad that you’ve clarified that yet another supposed republican position (like fiscal responsibility) is just a stupid effing lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tradd
I think Trump will leave peacefully and start his own TV network. That's why he ran in the first place. He never expected to win.
Abrams claimed she was robbed. I think Trump will probably do the same if he loses. As far as metaphorical conflagrations are concerned, that will be in the squinting eye of the beholder.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Mob mentality is an important element in all of this: the burning, the looting, unequal levels of police brutality among people who are arrested, the overzealous use last night of pepper spray and less-lethal on the press and on people sitting on their own porches,...Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
Last night was almost quiet in our neighborhood. Residents here were, like frugal-one's son, advised to hide trash bins which could be used as fire bowls, to keep garden hoses connected and ready to use, to keep lights on, etc. Lots of helicopter flight time for both the police and TV stations. A few people sped down our residential streets in cars with no license plates. When they were pulled over, apparently, the occupants bolted, leaving behind fire starters and accelerants in their vehicles. Residential neighborhoods in Minneapolis saw poorly-formed bands of people roaming around (after curfew) and moved most of them on with displays of their own massed presence. There really were not many places for people to congregate without facing a sizable police/National Guard presence.
I'm curious to see what happens tonight. No curfew has been declared (yet). I find it hard to believe so many people just vanished into the woodwork and won't be back.
So last night they burned Ferguson Missouri. Again. I guess it was so effective last time in affecting change.
The local race baiting rag, the St. Louis Post Dispatch, had a lovely picture of the fire storm in Ferguson on their front page this morning. Good for them, maybe they’ll get a Pulitzer for visual coverage of Ferguson rioting. Again.
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Doesn't the District Attorney determine the severity of the crime and bail amount?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tradd
dh SAW the guys on the local tv news wearing said t-shirts!Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
I predict lots of race war advocates, white nationalists, anarchists, and other out of town troublemakers will be arrested. Some already have been.
The police attacked at least one peaceful demonstration that included a journalist and camera crew last night on video. Mob mentalities don't seem to favor one side.
Not when people are caught red handed in the act.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
I know people who live in Minneapolis who are locked and loaded to protect their homes. You can be damn sure that if the scum start hitting residential areas at least some will be shot.
The group being donated to pays the bail after its been set. I’ve seen a number of lib celebrities on Twitter donating to pay the bail of arrested “protestors.” The quotes are mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
Chicago has essentially blocked off downtown. Access is only allowed for those who live/work in the area or have essential business. Only the Lake Shore Drive and Columbus Street bridges across the Chicago River are down. All the other bridges are still up. Public transit service is suspended downtown. I’m guessing the freeway exits to downtown are still blocked. Curfew from 9pm to 6am in effect until further notice.
https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/...e-to-downtown/
So the penalty now for stealing a tv is death? I don't recall reading about any legislatures making that change. Or any of them getting rid of due process. Please correct me if I missed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tradd
You put me in mind of an old joke about our Midwestern Berkeley wannabe. “There was a race riot in Madison, and a few black people came to watch”.Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
From what I read the rioters came after the protestors left. They broke into city hall and set a fire. We had a 8 pm curfew which is why the restaurant had to close. They were pepper sprayed numerous times. Our black population is only 3%.
These people are trash and need to be treated accordingly. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Hopefully take their genes out of the pool before their stupidity has reproduced. I hate all people equally. If you can’t behave sensibly and not illegally, all bets are off as far as I’m concerned.
I don’t care what their “reasons” are for rioting. Seems to be combined some blacks and Antifa. Some suburban white chick in New York was arrested for trying to throw a Molotov cocktail into a NYPD vehicle with four cops inside. She’s been charged with 4 counts of attempted murder, among other charges.
Scum is gonna scum. You’re in bed politically with people who are very close to saying that rioting, looting, and arson are approved activities because of whatever reason.
There was stuff going on in Fargo, ND. Fargo is the last place I’d think this kind of stuff would happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teacher Terry
I haven't seen any indication that Antifa has anything to do with this, but i know it's a popular right-wing whipping boy. More likely the Proud Boys or their equivalent.
In many states you can’t shoot someone until they are in your house. No guns or violence for us.
I am certainly glad you are not a cop. And I hope that few cops have similar opinions.Quote:
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Isn't the amount of bail based on the severity of the crime? The article you mentioned spoke of people unable to pay even a small bail (not a severe crime) would be equating the jail to debtor's prison because they would not even be able to post bail.
Believe what you want. There were not that many black people on the streets for the destruction. I watched it live and you are speaking through your...... As in TT case, the riot started after the peaceful demonstration was over.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
According to my son in Minneapolis, the white supremists were putting burning dumpsters in the streets and causing the damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
And cops be all ‘I’m gonna run you over just because I can’ or shoot you on your porch.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...-violence.html
OMG! OMG! OMG! I have a friend that lives in Grand Forks, ND, from my days working in Asst Management at the Morth Rim of the Grand Canyon. She sent me video the protests in Fargo and I couldn't believe this was in North Dakota. Silver lining, though - more and more Americans are waking up to the truth of America and it's police. I do believe there will be long deserved consequences for both America and it's police going forward. I just wish for less destruction/injury/loss of life as consequences are eventually doled out - but is this realistic, given the truth of America? Methinks not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tradd
Stay safe everyone....things are finally getting irrevocably real. Rob
There's a significant percentage of brutal officers that for some reason aren't winnowed out in the hiring process--but that wouldn't be so bad if they were summarily dismissed when their actions betrayed them, and they usually aren't. Chauvin was said to have 18 citizen complaints on file. I'm a big proponent of unions, but not when they protect the guilty, as police unions often do.
I think the case that upsets me most is the Breonna Taylor case where police broke into her house while conducting a misguided and totally unnecessary raid, shot up the place and killed her--an EMT and aspiring nursing student--and wounded her partner. They had no idea the thugs invading their apartment weren't home invaders. But I guess they were, after all.
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I can well believe it. Madison is what, maybe 80% white? And with the State’s highest concentration of social justice enthusiasts and inebriated young people, most of the civil unrest there tends to be on the youngish pale side.Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
Lord knows we don't need no social justice 'round here!
Many of the destroyed businesses will never open again. Many are owned by black people.
Many police nationwide are working overtime to prove that they're as awful as the protestors claim.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/31/2...t-george-floyd
The shooter of porch residents are riling up the 2ndQuote:
Originally Posted by jp1
amendment peeps.
This is pretty much what the Second Amendment is all about—-government goons marching down your street shooting at you.
It's just all so, so sad.
Maybe the second amendment peeps have a point. I don't recall the police acting so callously a few weeks ago in Michigan when the protestors were mostly heavily armed.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
I suppose they could sit home and watch cities burn.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Or they could show some empathy for the protestors pain and potentially deescalate the situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
https://cbs12.com/news/local/police-...n-coral-gables
At the protest in san diego right now, peaceful so far, the protestors are trying to get the police there to kneel. Whether they do or not will probably determine the course of the rest of the evening.