There is a very good Atlantic article on how Hitler dismantled a democracy in 53 days. I have access to it from my Apple News+ subscription
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There is a very good Atlantic article on how Hitler dismantled a democracy in 53 days. I have access to it from my Apple News+ subscription
Finally coming around to believe we have a hitler wannabe! The writing was on the wall long ago as I warned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tradd
With all the legitimate criticism of Trump available in the real world, why is so much effort flowing into this weird fixation with Nazi porn?
You need to read up … check the Atlantic article for starters.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
Read Reddit Feddiscussion and decide for yourself:
https://i.redd.it/qfyfib8e05je1.jpeg
It was ugly. One of the prosecuting attorneys who resigned said it would take a fool or a coward to dismiss charges. It sounds like they may have found someone.
Haven't heard anything about Eva Braun dirty movies. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
It’s not a mainstream publication, but Wired magazine is doing a bang up job of covering the fed mess. I’m not sure how much of their website is accessible without a subscription, but it’s only $12/year. Constantly updated. It’s the publication that broke the news with six identities of the kids who had access to Treasury’s systems.
I've mostly thought of the Nazi analogies to be extreme beyond reason. Mostly thinking of the Holocaust and indications of genocide and the brown shirts. I have to say as the 2025 plans are unfolding, a Nazi-like fascist regime with some sort of global domination aren't out of my realm of possibilities. Vance's speech in Germany concerned me, as well as the German Chancellor.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
My version is more like Orwell's 1984 and the Ministry of Truth.
I am more on board with the Orwellian theory since that is what I’ve been seeing in our political climate in the past few years. Subverting language to the point of compelled speech. Intimidating and firing people for wrongthink. Creating an official Federal government bureau of misinformation. Subverting scientific inquiry when it doesn't meet political criteria and favored narratives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogar
It does not matter which “side” the regime is on. It’s all the actions of an authoritative, overreaching government. The groundwork was already there and the Trump team is moving it along at breakneck speed.
Here is a link from the AFL CIO, check it out:Department of People who Work for a Living (deptofpeoplewhowork.org)
I've been wondering if many people actually depend on "X" for relevant political news or if it's just a sounding board for politicians to quibble? Although it seems common, today my legacy news reported on Pence getting after Trump of Ukraine, it seems like Zelensky chimes into the fray sometimes and Musky touts conspiracy theory just for fun. I admittedly have a small social circle but do not know of anyone who uses X for news items. It doesn't seem like a reliable way to get a comprehensive view of the issues and is more suited for doom scrollers, gossip mongers, and people with short attention spans and small cell phone screens. But I am probably in a different generation. I almost get the impression that the politicians who use it have too much free time and are doing their own doom scrolling. I'm probably the eternal luddite and some things I don't get.
And Truth Social is a whole 'nother ball of wax.
I know a fair number of people who use X for breaking news type stuff then then go to regular news sources for more info.
Personally I'm comforted by the fact that LDAHL convinced me that there would be no difference between a trump and a Harris presidency. Three weeks of the trump presidency has proven that he's an expert predictor. I'm sure the next several years will be completely fine. I hope we all live through the fourth turning that LDAHL doesn't think is happening despite all the obvious evidence that it is.
Something that's helping me get through these insane times beyond taking steps - FINALLY - to get out of this country - is the following:Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
I figured out that this country is not worth fighting for for many of us. Reason being, like it or not - more voters voted in this insanity than did not. That is a fact that is not going to change nor disappear no matter how you wish to wrap it up, package it, or spin it away. For many of us, there's no real reason to be here as we have no real representation under the current oppressive and on a daily basis, unconstitutional regime. Rob
Can you give us a few examples of oppression and/or unconstitutional acts you're referencing?Quote:
Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife
I for one would say: birthright citizenship. I think the Constitution is much clearer on that than the way people interpret the second amendment. And I think there's a pretty clear argument to be made that monies approved by Congress need to be removed by Congress. The Orange One and President Musk could get Congress to approve their (IMO unethical and completely egregious) blanket freezes on already appropriated monies, but can't be bothered. Which makes one wonder why? Why should an unelected immigrant who was, for a time, in this country illegally, be allowed to access data from government entities, fire people at will (Oh, wait, that's what we DO in corporate Amerika) and do everything in his power to make us a weaker and even more divided nation? What's the end game here? I'm not seeing anything better than what we had, and it's looking a whole lot WORSE than what we had before. Personally, I'm becoming really glad that I'm old, and that my kids had the sense to not procreate. The world of the future looks like the more distant past, where life was short and brutal, except for the elete.Quote:
Can you give us a few examples of oppression and/or unconstitutional acts you're referencing?
Personally, I'm becoming really glad that I'm old, and that my kids had the sense to not procreate. The world of the future looks like the more distant past, where life was short and brutal, except for the elete.
Early morning It is all a game with worldwide consequences...
it's a game for those who have money, and power. for the rest of us, it's not a game at all. though it's clear we're the pawns....
It IS possible to change the board on which your game is being played to one that works better for you - as I am trying via working towards moving to Ecuador - but it IS a game nonetheless in which we are the pawns, yes, I could not agree more. I'd be happy at this point just to be on playing board that worked better for me - maybe such is the best we can hope for in this world? RobQuote:
Originally Posted by early morning
I don’t mind examining the “birthright” part of citizenship, it is time. HOW that is being done could be disparaged, though.
Birthright citizenship is mainly a thing in the Americas. Europe doesnt have it.
https://maint.loc.gov/law/help/birth...hip/global.php
I thought and still think that the difference between a a Trump and Harris administration would equate to the difference between a cyanide kombucha and a strychnine smoothie.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
I also thought and still think the US constitutional order is robust enough to survive either. I’m sorry that incenses you so badly. But the good news is that all that has to happen for you to be proven right is for the Republic to fall in the near future.
As far as the deterministic fortune-telling being promoted by that hedge fund consultant, I think the “obvious evidence” you and Steve Bannon see are the result of subjective cherry-picking of events that soothsayers and millenarian cults have indulged in forever.
If you could only close up the coup and keep all the politicians locked up in it, all those eggs they keep laying, just bringing the cost of eggs down.:laff:
Alan didn't ask what we THOUGHT about unconstitutional actions, he just asked what we thought they were. I agree that birthright citizenship is something that could be/should be up for discussion. But it's a constitutional right. Not something to be removed by executive fiat. I don't really care who has/does not have it. It's in the constitution, we have ways to amend said document, they are not being used. Ergo, unconstitutional action.
The judge who blocked that EO referred to it as “blatantly unconstitutional”. I’m inclined to agree with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by early morning
So proud of Gov. Mills today and so glad to have voted for her. We need more people with her kind of courage.
Are you talking about the “boys in girls sports” issue?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tybee
No, I am talking about the rule of law issue.
[QUOTE][No, I am talking about the rule of law issue./QUOTE] +1
The rule of law is getting trampled underfoot far too often.
[QUOTE=early morning;443595]Here is the video of him threatening our state and threatening her personally:Quote:
[No, I am talking about the rule of law issue./QUOTE] +1
The rule of law is getting trampled underfoot far too often.
Bing Videos
Check it out.
And here's her statement yesterday:
Governor Mills' Statement on President's Threat to Withhold Education Funding from Maine
February 21, 2025
Washington D.C. -- Governor Janet Mills issued the following statement today regarding the President's threat to withhold Federal education funding from Maine:
"If the President attempts to unilaterally deprive Maine school children of the benefit of Federal funding, my Administration and the Attorney General will take all appropriate and necessary legal action to restore that funding and the academic opportunity it provides. The State of Maine will not be intimidated by the President's threats."
[QUOTE=Tybee;443596]Is this the “rule of law” challenge you are talking about? How are you interpreting this Executive Order effect onQuote:
Originally Posted by early morning
Maine's schools?
from Executive order https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...womens-sports/
(b) All executive departments and agencies (agencies) shall review grants to educational programs and, where appropriate, rescind funding to programs that fail to comply with the policy established in this order.
[QUOTE=early morning;443595]I think there are some real serious concerns about upholding the rule of law in this Administration. Real serious.Quote:
[No, I am talking about the rule of law issue./QUOTE] +1
The rule of law is getting trampled underfoot far too often.
I don’t consider the threat to hold back educational dollars from Maine to be one of them. But I do understand a threat to 10% of the Maine public schools’ education budget isn’t peanuts.
Perhaps they could just, ya know, keep boys out of girls sports. Do the right thing.
I am coming to the conclusion that all this craziness going on is actually by design by the oligarchy. There is something about the players--Musk, Thiel, Trump, Vance--well-supported by other corporate heads who have have the financial clout and the will to buy political power. Here's are quotes that were used in an article I read. This is not the only article I've read, but to me it's plausible that we are, as many others believe, having the rug of democracy ripped from underneath us.
https://substack.com/home/post/p-157052044?source=queue
“I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.” - Peter Thiel
“Democracy is done.” – Curtis Yarvin
"If Americans want to change their government, they're going to have to get over their dictator-phobia." - Curtis Yarvin
I also read this article, and I clicked on the link in it called The Techno-Optimist Manifesto. This manfesto+Proect 2025, both already carefully crafted, and within the reach of the rich and powerful to execute--scary stuff.
Call me a conspiracy theorist or a left wing nut, but Trump may not be a lone nut in this wheelhouse.
I believe you are exactly right, that democracy is being ripped from us. This administration is now stealing from the American people.Quote:
Originally Posted by catherine
Watching a video clip of Musk prancing around with his chainsaw made me wonder: is this governance or reality TV? I guess it is the governance you get when a reality TV star is in charge of the country.
My second thought was that Musk reminded me of Leatherface from the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, only thankfully, with sunglasses instead of a mask made from human flesh. I guess we have to be grateful for these little things. I do occasionally like horror movies, but the running of the country should not be one of them.
I saw a quote from James Carville, the Democratic strategist, that he predicts the current administration will implode from within. Best strategy is to sit back and watch for now. I recall in the last Trump admin that he was firing his sidekicks quite frequently.
Yeah, Carville’s predictions are worth what we’ve paid for. he was adamant Trump would not win this time. This Trump administration is not the clown show that we saw in 2016.Quote:
Originally Posted by pinkytoe
I think it's generally helpful to put things into perspective whenever possible. I think the gist of Carville's oratory was to tell Democrats to stop all the non-stop histrionics and hyperbole as they are doing nothing to stop Trump and are likely inflating the general public's approval of Trump policies. Better to maintain a low profile and let some of the efforts fail naturally, which may or may not happen organically, but certainly won't if Democrats foolishly help keep them popular in the eyes of the majority of citizens.Quote:
Originally Posted by pinkytoe
Not true… seeing polls showing trump has the worse ever rating of any president at this early stage of governance!Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
Yesterday, atop El Capitan at Yosemite National Park, a US flag was hung upside down … a signal of a country in distress! There is no doubt! Again, multiple protests around the country where mainstream media is not covering.
One should not discourage positive thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by pinkytoe
My crystal ball says we are on the road to an economic contraction, and that will be what bites Trump. Some of it has to do with deportation and the shrinking of government, but also an AI bubble not unlike the dot com bubble, vastly over priced stocks, deregulation of the financial industry, failing consumer confidence due to economic uncertainty, and persistent inflation with higher interest rates.
Contrary to DT's propaganda, the stock market and economy have both been on a relative roar for several years and those things seem to go in cycles.
People vote with their wallets.