Legacy news has it that the Kennedy center will be closed for two years for remodeling. Possibly a better choice than just letting it sit unused. Gilded French Provincial?
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Legacy news has it that the Kennedy center will be closed for two years for remodeling. Possibly a better choice than just letting it sit unused. Gilded French Provincial?
I wouldn't be surprised, aesthetically compatible with the proposed Arc de Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogar
I can think of one quick way to improve it.
Maybe the Trump Tower of Babble will be next.
Sirens Blaring:::
President Trump suggested during an appearance on the Dan Bongino Show that Republicans should "take over the voting" in at least 15 states and "nationalize" elections!
https://www.npr.org/2026/02/03/nx-s1...lize-elections
Here we go….
I don't know what his agenda is for voting, but he's up to something since the constitution seems to prohibit such a thing. Although he seems to find ways around the constitution. I'm thinking the Fulton County FBI raid is a part of the scheme. Legacy news claims they are all blue states, although I've not double checked that. They might have to get a second supreme court to hear all of his legal challenges. The birthright citizenship ruling seems to be in the log jam as well as the restrictions on tariffs.
Edit: Krugman's latest substack was on the Supreme Court ruling on tariffs. Two lower courts have ruled against them and he says it's basically an open and closed case. The tariffs are allowed under the "emergency economic powers act". Even the donald himself has proclaimed the strong economy and his servant, Bessent, now says it's an emergency to avoid an emergency. Yup. Krugman's claim was that the court has failed to act because they are "cowards".
I didn’t like it when the Democrats pushed for the For the People Act, and I hope the SAVE Act meets the same ignominious end. Given what I’m hearing from John Thune and others, that seems likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
HUH! So, you are all in for gerrymandering? And, ids such as driver’s licenses were always required to vote. I just looked up the save act and that is all that is required. IMO, it has been proven time and again our voting processes are secure.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
Bannon has proposed have ICE and troops to polling places. I don't think that would end well and maybe we would be talking revolution. And a good reason to mail in. It doesn't seem like Bannon has the presidents ear so much any more.
The former White House strategist called for the Trump administration to send Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers to polling sites to prevent noncitizens from voting, citing a debunked conspiracy theory about widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election. “We’re going to have ICE surround the polls come November. We’re not going to sit here and allow you to steal the country again,” he said.
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/04/steve-bannon-ice-military-polling-sites-00765331
As stated earlier, mail in is not the answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogar
We don’t have polling places in Washington State.
Yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
okay----i been thinking maybe the Epstein Files will reveal something shocking about Jimmah Cahtah, but so far today all i could find was THIS (see photo). Probably taken at a kilan rally. Yup.Attachment 6709
Meh. Both acts would have empowered the federal government to set rules for state elections. Both deserve to fail as being incompatible with a federalist system. Much like the filibuster or gerrymandering, positions seem to be taken based more on transient expediency than on principle.Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
My county has a web page describing the SAVE act. At the onset it seems to make some sense. It requires a valid passport or birth certificate to register to vote, but not a drivers license or tribal ID. Current requirements do seem a little loose and require proof of identification such as a social security number, government issued ID, a drivers license (which I'm assuming requires some verification of citizenship), or passport. It mentions the large expense of implementing something like the SAVE act.
"Approximately 146 million Americans do not have a valid passport and approximately 69 million American women do not have a birth certificate with their legal name. According to the Brennan Center, over 9% of eligible US voters—21 million Americans—may not have immediate access to documentary proof of citizenship."
Drivers licenses in some states, I don’t know about yours, do NOT require some proof of citizenship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogar
besides, voting in some states is allowed by non-citizens for local elections.
sure, I would like federal elections to be limited to citizens, which is the intent, and you would think it wouldn’t be all that hard, but the business of democratic elections is messy with so many holes, checks, balances, exceptions along the way that… It’s just messy.
Theoretically it would be nice if there was one rule for everyone across the United States, but I agree with Ldahl that the elections are in the hands of the states and it needs to stay that way because that’s how our country has set been up.
And some states will be looser than others and purposely so. I don’t like it, but I’m going to live with it.
Do you happen to know what documents these "some" states require for a drivers license besides proof of citizenship and if citizenship is indicated on the driver's license. I actually don't know and am just asking since you mentioned it. So, in some states a legal immigrant non-citizen can get a drivers license with no documents indicating any form of citizenship and that would be all required to register to vote?Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
To me, I think it is a miracle of marketing that elections are so close these days. At least since Bush/Gore we have been in a position where elections can be, or are contentious. When it comes down to revisiting and recounting only one state in order to determine the president it indicates that somehow the campaign powers-that-be have managed to split the country darn near evenly. If the elections weren't so close, this would not be as big of an issue.
My state issues a drivers license to non-citizens. DH used to to work with guys from Mexico who would come up for eight months and work here. A few of them learned enough English to get a drivers license, a CDL even.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogar
I just looked up Missouri requirements, and it stated that these drivers licenses are issued for the duration of the immigrants’ visa or green card or work papers.
I don’t know how that plays into registering to vote.
I never forget that the felon/comment Dr. Ian Roberts, superintendent of Des Moines, public schools, was registered to vote in Maryland.
I know that those folks can get drivers licenses. I was just wondering if those same driver's licenses can be used to register to vote as a US citizen. Then there's the pardoned felons from the attack on Congress who can also vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
My idea of election reform would be elimination of the electoral college and base presidential elections on the popular vote. That might elimination at least some of the gerrymandering to gain advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by catherine
Hey, we agree on something! You obviously disagree on trump’s vision to “nationalize” voting!Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogar
I am not sure I agree with the abolition of the electoral college because it would be too easy for the urban centers to determine the outcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogar
I say this as a rural person, who has ALWAYS been a rural person - if there are more people in urban areas, why should they NOT determine outcomes? Why should we, who chose to live in the sticks, have more power and influence than the millions who live in urban areas? I want them happy in their urban setting, and I want them to have their needs met, in part for the purely selfish reason that then they will stay in their urban abodes, and not build mega-mansions in the cow pastures and bean fields!Quote:
I am not sure I agree with the abolition of the electoral college because it would be too easy for the urban centers to determine the outcome
I have many issues with Trump’s visions. Although I see them more as transitory whimsical eructations than as fully formed ideas.Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
I think it’s interesting that the two GOP presidents of the last century or so most reviled by the Democrats (Nixon and Trump) were the ones who behaved the most like Democrats.
No way is that true.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
The thing about trumps brain addled delusional fantasies is that he may pick one and send out his minions to make real. Take Greenland or birthright citizenship for example. Another of his delusions has been the predictions of the glorious future of the bitcoin, which just reached satisfying price dropping below 2024 levels. So I do suppose those have been transitory after their disruptions. ICE, tariffs, and voter reform maybe here to stay, or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
As far as Nixon and trump goes, both are/were incomparable overt crooks, although one could quibble over policy. We can at least thank Nixon for the EPA, which trump has done everything in his power to diminish.
hunh. I never thought of Nixon as being remotely a Democrat in actions. What did he do that makes you say that?Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
But Trump, sure, he is unmoored philosophically. He can go anywhere tilting at anything that seems opportunistic.
okay----see, this is why we really need Greenland. Denmark doesn't need it; they could not defend it without our help, anyway. So anyway----if Greenland was a U.S. possession, it could be used in the same way Britain used Australia. Basically, for warehousing our surplus population. People that don't "fit in", if you will. But yeah---that's a good solution. It worked for Britain. Now you know. Thankk mee.
Nixon compiled a record of economic interference that Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren would be proud of. There was a significant expansion of entitlement programs on his watch. He implemented wage and price controls. He grew the regulatory state across the board. He floated proposals for universal health care and universal basic income. He commenced our decades-long delusion that Communist China was something other than a committed enemy.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
Just because he crushed George McGovern so badly in ‘72, people seem to think he was some sort of arch-conservative. He was no such thing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
FYI … 1939 was the Fair Labors Standards Act. I don’t believe the others were first proposed by him either. History proves he was a republican shyster!
Here's an interesting article about Nixon's more progressive policies, particularly related to healthcare. It sounds like he may have had a personal interest in better access to healthcare, but he also had a Democratic Congress to work with, and maybe his unpopular role in things like the Vietnam War had him searching for a bone to throw to the populace, kind of like Trump signing executive orders for deregulation and tax breaks for the wealthy and expanding the military and Department of Homeland Security and offsetting those policies with "no tax on tips for waiters"
https://www.aei.org/articles/nixon-a...re-compromise/
This absolutely makes me sick. I can’t believe anyone condones this!
https://apnews.com/article/ice-deten...60b4d979cb9c48
This is a true story. My barber is a responsible business owner and otherwise a good conversationist. Last visit she commented on how she has talked with customers about certain topics or hair styles. Shortly there after then gets an email, among many others, promoting a product related specifically to that discussion. I asked how they might know and she said they are listening through peoples cell phones. Seriously.
Roger I think you are on the wrong thread, did you mean this for Conspiracy Theories?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogar
you saying that your barber was having a face-to-face conversation with a customer in his barber chair? I’m not clear how the conversation was taking place.
if the government is monetizing dumb ads, gee I wish that money would go into the United States treasury, the “ pay off the deficit” fund. It’s probably not though.:)
Yes, thanks for the correction. Maybe Alan will move it, but it's probably not that important. Yes, the discussion would occur with a client in the chair, and the ads would follow. Aside from posting in wrong place, I was also not clear. Mia culpa. I don't know that the implication related to the government, it was more like big brother knows. Barber is a staunch republican, if it matters. There was mentioned of implanting chips and how it might not even be needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
I was half joking when I asked if you intended it for Conspiracy Theories.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogar
I could move it if you really think it’s necessary, but I think it’s kind of funny here.Trump and his minions may be listening…
Thanks for asking. Maybe it's just fine here anyway. And yes, they may be listening. Or reading.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
Judge Goodwin's full opinion is well worth reading. Here's where to find it:Quote:
"Antiseptic judicial rhetoric cannot do justice to what is happening. Across the interior of the United States, agents of the federal government - masked, anonymous, armed with military weapons, operating from unmarked vehicles, acting without warrants of any kind - are seizing persons for civil immigration violations and imprisoning them without any semblance of due process. The systematic character of this practice and its deliberate elimination of every structural feature that distinguishes constitutional authority from raw force place it beyond the reach of ordinary legal description. It is an assault on the constitutional order. It is what the Fourth Amendment was written to prevent. It is what the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment forbids."
https://www.bloomberglaw.com/public/...1RD7LCUA3AHER0