Conavirus......

I saw on the news today there is no reason for vaccinated people to wear masks but the Feds and many state governments will not ease mandates because they do not trust people to be honest about whether they were vaccinated if mandates are modified to only apply to the unvaccinated. We could use vaccine passports but they aren't doing anything on that front. But they are at least saying no need for non vaccinated non elderly people with no comorbidities to wear masks at family gatherings where the high risk people are vaccinated. We need more of this thinking, that we don't infringe on the rights of healthy people unnecessarily.

Of course people won’t be honest. We’ve all likely read stories about known positives getting on planes and such. There was a story about gyms being super spreader places because lots of people don’t wear masks and of the limited number of situations studied where they were spreading the virus there were multiple cases where people who had either tested positive or had obvious covid symptoms had still showed up to workout.

If most people in the US actually had concern for others our infection stats would look more like countries like Australia.

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Originally Posted by Yppej

I saw on the news today there is no reason for vaccinated people to wear masks ....

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Well, gosh, I guess you know more than the CDC's just-released guidelines on the topic for vaccinated individuals.

It's like you only read the headlines of articles that reinforce your beliefs, and even then misrepresent things.

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My parents are scheduled to get their second shots today. In a couple weeks I will be able to hug them for the first time in over a year which the CDC says is safe even though I am not vaccinated. As I said in another thread, vaccines work, and I trust this vaccine to keep them from getting the virus or giving it to me. People who love to cower in fear and gloom need to look at the data coming out of Israel.

My mother has really declined over the year. It has been hard seeing that, being apart, and not knowing when we could be together again or know how much time we will have.

I have also felt very isolated living with and only seeing socially a mentally ill person who does not want me to get things done and can't get himself together to get them done though he thinks he can. Last night I had a meltdown and said I am going to start calling repair people today, I cannot be patient anymore. I also think with the decline in infection rates it is okay to bring a contractor in the house. The water is getting rustier and I am worried a pipe could burst.

Chicago is up in arms that the appts at the big vaccine center set up at the United Center stadium have been going mostly to whites, Asians, and suburban Cook County residents, not the older people of color who had been the intended recipients at this location. The mayor is danged near on a rampage about this.

Well, perhaps you have to enable people to make appts by phone and staff any phone lines accordingly so people can get through.

Tradd the same thing happened in NYC maybe a month ago. They set up a site in Washington heights, a largely Hispanic neighborhood that was having high infection rates at the time but appointments were only available online at an English only website and if I remember correctly they didn’t even make an effort to have sufficient Spanish speaking people on-site to help.

A friend of mine had an appointment last Saturday at the Jacob javits convention center. She got there and the line was incredibly long. With no idea where, or even if, there was a disabled line (she’s a long hauler who simply would not have been able to wait in the line for any length of time) she had to tell the Uber driver to just take her home.

My son's bil in Philadelphia is severely immuno compromised and has had two organ transplants. He made his appointment and went to get the shot and they had given his shot to someone else.

Not okay.

We’ve had an interesting time at my church with people showing up for services who’ve not signed up. We have a capacity for 40. You have to sign up ahead of time. Priest emails out a Google forms thing and you sign up that way. Even our seniors can handle that. But with it getting close to the beginning of Lent, people are showing up for services out of the blue. They’ve been very strict so they can do contact tracing if needed. There’s talk about putting up signs on the church doors in all the languages of people who might drop in (lots of local Slavs) indicating no one to attend without signup. People dropping in also puts us over our capacity of 40. We have chairs spaced out with bits of tape on the floor marking 6ft between. Really the only way they can keep people out is to lock the doors when the service has started. That might be a bit drastic.

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Originally Posted by Tradd

We’ve had an interesting time at my church with people showing up for services who’ve not signed up. We have a capacity for 40. You have to sign up ahead of time. Priest emails out a Google forms thing and you sign up that way. Even our seniors can handle that. But with it getting close to the beginning of Lent, people are showing up for services out of the blue. They’ve been very strict so they can do contact tracing if needed. There’s talk about putting up signs on the church doors in all the languages of people who might drop in (lots of local Slavs) indicating no one to attend without signup. People dropping in also puts us over our capacity of 40. We have chairs spaced out with bits of tape on the floor marking 6ft between. Really the only way they can keep people out is to lock the doors when the service has started. That might be a bit drastic.

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Your church is exhibiting responsible behavior and protecting its adherents. Wish they were all that careful.

A week ago I had back to back rescue dog emergencies that required I spend 10 hours total in a car with someone who isn’t particularly careful with social distancing. In fact she doesn’t mask up and does not socially distance purposely because she’s had the Rona virus twice she says. She has been tested and she has antibodies. Anyway –

Not only did I ride hours in a car, one of the events required that I be with a group of people for quite a while as they dealt with a mama dog giving birth. They were all unmasked, so I,stood back as far ss I could. These events also necessitated eating out in restaurant one time.

I wasn’t happy about it but I had to do it.

So here I am five days later and I’m still healthy, so I guess I’m OK. I got lucky. And I did have Pfizer shot number one under my belt.