It sounds like there's a window for the presence of antibodies, so I wonder how useful such testing is.
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It sounds like there's a window for the presence of antibodies, so I wonder how useful such testing is.
Nevada just made masks mandatory even outside. Our cases are rapidly increasing and I applaud our governor’s decision.
We have been talking about it. We still think my DH may have had covid along with the flu (tested positive for flu, no covid test at that time) in January. He was very sick for three weeks. Then about a month later he had a stroke. The Neuro says the size and place of this second stroke doesn't explain the symptoms and amount of setback DH is experiencing. I get that there is compounded stress with all that is going on, it still doesn't totally explain why both of us have been feeling overwhelming fatigue for awhile now. We exercise and eat properly. We were not like this before. Afternoon naps have become a thing where they were never even a thought before. My sister is certain (has not tested) that is what she had when she went to Arizona in January and ended up coming home early due to fever and coughing/chest pain. She is still on two inhalers 6 months later. I would really love to know.
So sorry simple that you all are going through all of that. Many people are having lingering fatigue and issues months later.
I had an antibody test during my last every eight week blood donation. They are looking for antibodies which may be useful to transfuse to sick patients. It was negative. I am in a National covid study already. I Have sheltered in place and been meticulous about face masks and hand washing. Never had a symptom or came in close contact with someone positive I know of. I live next to a hotbed county. So far, we are not doing too baldly with cases in my county. However I often am the person who is one of only a few mask wearers which is why I am very careful about where I go.
anyone who believes the medical opinion a medical coder, politician, plumber, talk show host, reporter, weatherman or neighbor is nuts. Here is who to believe. The CDC, WHO, NIH, top infectious disease specialists, scientists working on a vaccine and physicians who care for covid patients every day. They may not always be 100% right but they have a astronomically better chance at getting it right than the former group. And not TV doctors who run the talk show circuit hawking products for their own gain. Remember Hydroxychlorquine? Lupus and other people that it actually worked on could not get it after some snake oil salesman hawked it. It proved not to be helpful and maybe harmful. Now we have tons of it in the federal stockpile. Gee, I wonder who owns stock in those companies Donald and friends?
Word!!Quote:
Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere
It was announced today MLB players will not be wearing masks during games, even though they can be in close contact - for example, when tagging someone at a base or the plate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
Moron trump is stopping testing.... As if that will help him look good?????
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-c...-states-2020-6
I'm getting weekly testing now. And still wearing a mask.
He is so over it! And he can tweet insults at it all night long, but it won't be intimidated by him at all. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
I hope that works out better for them than the pro tennis players that all recently got it from each other...Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
Every time I think you've reached the outer limits, you outdo yourself. I call bullshit on your neighbor. You should spend some time learning about what these patients go through. Get some meaningful education. Then apply it to life!Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
There are people testing positive just 14 days after being declared recovered. I wouldn't waste money on antibody testing. It's reliability is poor at present time.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
YEA! I wish your neighbor to the North would do that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Teacher Terry
Oregon or Idaho? Who really needs to do is that neighbor to the Southeast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gardnr
The neighbor of a coworker etc.., yea 3rd hand gossip and the poster here is suspect as they so often get basic things wrong.
I'd trust it more if it didn't seem to align so perfectly with right-wing propaganda. And if there was more actual proof of actual systematic (not one off) fraud. I mean if it's someone with diagnosed covid with a heart attack there is no way of knowing whether they would have had that heart attack without covid.
As for the WHO and the CDC and etc. - trust but with a grain of salt. I mean this is for our reputable sources: The Lancet publishes an invalid study they have to retract, the WHO slow on declaring a pandemic, wrong on masks, let's speculation about the lack of asymptomatic transmission blow up and misinform. The CDC invalid tests, lying about masks, wrong on human transmission, etc.. - and ultimately accountable to Trump which has to shade everything they do to some degree. There is an actual reason for there to be a crisis of trust in authorities, they have failed us in many ways, it just doesn't mean alex jones are dr mercola and Fox commentators are right instead - no they are a great deal worse than the authorities in misinformation.
Idaho! And yes, Oregon should as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore
Regarding COVID coding: There is absolute validity in billing more for a COVID patient. This patient becomes a 1:1 Nurse ratio. This patient consumes massive volumes of costly PPE for those who need to come in/out of their room. Negative Pressure environment requires attention by both clinical staff and engineering staff. This patient is consuming a great deal of laboratory resources.
ARDS carries a CPT code modifier.....an infected patient carries a CPT code modifier. COVID should absolutely have a code modifier. Just because a patient had a heart attack doesn't mean that COVID didn't have a massive effect on their cost of care.
Like you, I'm sick and tired of the Trumper lies.
Traveling through Tx right now. Only masks are on travelers. No locals wearing them; not even hotel desk clerk.
G, thanks for explaining how it really works.
The most populous counties in Oregon have mandatory masking now, but the onus is on county governments to decide how to implement that. Reports from the Portland area are that most people are wearing masks. We have statewide masking as of today in Washington. "The rule, which will go into place Friday, will require masks in any indoor public space, as well as outdoors if social distancing can't be maintained. Any facial covering that fits over the nose and mouth will be permitted."
And in response, we have a booming business in fake medical exemption cards, and a sheriff in the SW part of the state is railing against "being a sheep"--believing health care authorities--because "...he’s not convinced masks help prevent the spread of the virus." Really? Because almost all the doctors and scientists studying this are convinced. I'd love to see his credentials and/or data.
Part of me is thinking that anyone who refuses to wear a mask, then catches COVID-19, should also refuse medical treatment for the virus. But then that isn't a very kind, caring or compassionate thing to say, so I guess I'll just continue to wear a mask to protect not only myself but to also protect those who refuse to wear one.Quote:
Originally Posted by pinkytoe
Which is probably why Texas is seeing a tsunami of new cases.Quote:
Originally Posted by pinkytoe
Went to the gym today. LA Fitness branch in suburban Chicago.
Pool area is locked. Not open. Arrows through the entire place. Every other cardio machine blocked off. Showers unavailable. Drinking fountains turned off. They told us to bring our own water. We were also told to come already dressed to workout. They made it pretty clear they didn’t want us to us locker rooms. It was wet out this morning so I was running errands in sandals with my workout shoes and socks in a plastic grocery bag. It was raining so I didn’t change at my car. Changed inside. My purse on top of bag with my sandals was sitting on floor next to bike I was using.
I was halfway through 40 min workout when one of the employees comes over and tells me I can’t have a bag due to COVID. Excuse me? Their emails, signs, etc., made no mention of that. Guy said he wanted me to put it at the front desk. I told him my purse wasn’t going out of my sight. He relented but told me no bag for the next time.
I’ll just go back to just bringing phone, keys, and water bottle, as I used to do. That was just weird.
Wisconsin has been getting sicker each day for a week now.
The national numbers are disconcerting.
On 6/25 Texas Governor Gregg Abbott banned elective surgeries in Dallas, Harris, Travis and Bexar Counties (home to Dallas, Houston, Austin and San Antonio).
Gov. Abbott also announced that he would pause any further phases of reopening business in Texas. This action does not reverse any of the reopening phases he has already allowed. The last thing we want to do as a state is go backwards and close down businesses.
The 7-day moving average positivity rate in TX is 10.42% ... about 1 in 10 Texans who are tested for COVID-19 test positive.
Update 6/26 ... The >10% positivity in TX moved Gov. Abbott to "roll back" some of the reopening measures he had previously approved.
At this time it is clear that the rise in cases is largely driven by certain types of activities, including Texans congregating in bars. That said, Gov. Abbott ordered the bars to close at 12:00 PM. (That is noon, right?)
And he ordered that rafting and tubing businesses must close.
And he banned outdoor gatherings of 100 or more persons, with certain exceptions.
I'm in Montana at the moment and everywhere we've been so far has required wearing of masks. They seem to be overdoing the social distancing thing a bit though, visited the Little Bighorn Battlefield Monument today and they blocked off every other parking space, I guess to protect the cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by pinkytoe
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To protect people when getting in and out of cars.
Better to err on the side of caution!Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
I heard on the radio today that JP Morgan Chase has developed a model that correctly predicts the location of covid outbreaks. They found where you have a high rate of dining inside restaurants 3 weeks later you have an outbreak. Where you high rates of people shopping at supermarkets you have a low rate of infection 3 weeks later. Here is a link to an article on this:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/26/this...rus-cases.html
I found this interesting because despite having no risk factors I have not eaten at a restaurant since the pandemic began, though I could have crossed a nearby state line and done so indoors or out. By contrast one of my critics here, a high risk individual, has reported going out for multiple restaurant meals during the pandemic.
Things that make you go hmmm.
Hmmm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
People here wear masks in the supermarket, but I suspect dining at a table in restaurants remove the mask to eat.
Hmmmm.
Restaurant meals outside at a odd time when you rarely encounter others is much less risky than inside dining.
We did go to a restaurant for our 40th anniversary 7d ago. They only do dinner and we took a 5PM reservation for first seating so no one had been in the restaurant for 19 hours. We were out in less than an hour not having a conversational post-dinner cocktail.
Our state has been on a rapid rise these past 4 days. No more eating out for us. We may or may not do take-out.
I'm only doing takeout, or delivery for restaurants right now.
One of the local high-end restaurants, which is on the beach, has started selling pizzas off their back patio, and you can pick up up, and go spread your blanket on the beach, and remain distanced, which works great.
That sounds great!Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
Yes, it's an amazing change. $20 for dinner for two, instead of $200 :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tradd
Oh Lord this was a bad thing. We are in Hermann and the tourists are out. I went to a restaurant intending to sit outside but all the outside seating was taken except for a place where it was really hot. So we went inside, choses a corner table away from everyone else and since they only had half of the tables up anyway that seemed OK.
But then. The crowds came. And more groups. This is a tourist town so it’s not individuals who order it’s gaggles of girls, so many brides and their parties. Tons of people and there was no social distancing and I saw only one mask. I know I didn’t take my name because I forgot it, but it was in the car and I should’ve gone to get it.
And this is a small restaurant. So fortunately they serve food in cardboard containers and the second we got our food we left with it. It was hideously noisy in this restaurant as it has all hard surfaces and noise bounces. For alcohol They serve only awful sweet slushy drinks and All food is fried. Here’s why I went there – I want to give the restaurant business. It is owned by a trained chef and this is his new concept restaurant. They closeD their perfectly nice Italian restaurant and rebranded as this thing. UGG.
Having been to local wilderness parks here I understand the thought process. I've tried to go to a couple of parks over the past months that had parking lots that were just mobbed with people. Both times I just kept driving and went hiking in less popular parks. Whether the same phenomena would happen at Little Bighorn is debatable. Most of the mobs I've seen in parking lots at state and county parks have been groups of people meeting up that had arrived in different cars. That's probably not as much of an issue at a place like Little Bighorn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
The closest town to this monument has a population of 2. It's 30 miles to the nearest grocery store and 56 miles to the nearest ubiquitous Walmart. Mobs would seem to be anything but ordinary.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Sounds fantastic! I would do that every night for dinner!Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
That is what our last night in Hawaii back in March was like. High end restaurant we'd eaten at on our last trip to Kauai. They were only doing takeout but letting people eat out on their lawn facing the ocean. They even brought out lawn furniture for us. It was actually more enjoyable than the last time we ate there because the food was still delicious and it was just a low key, enjoy the sunset while you eat, kind of experience. SO was trying to look disappointed but he was obviously faking his disappointment...Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
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And the view behind me.
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One restaurant here closed down in house dining due to rapidly rising covid cases (it's allowed, they just don't want to be open), went back to take out and delivery.
I don't think I've been in a restaurant since February (I don't mean take out), I think early March I got soup at a salad bar and reheated it!
That was an interesting article, Jeppy. Thanks for posting. We've only gotten take-out 5 times and we haven't eaten in a restaurant since 3/14/20. I love to eat out, but it isn't worth the risk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej