This whole “Joe’s got stolen documents too! But his aren’t stolen!” Is just hilarious. What in the actual fk goes on with these dimwits in D.C? And by that I mean ALL of them.
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This whole “Joe’s got stolen documents too! But his aren’t stolen!” Is just hilarious. What in the actual fk goes on with these dimwits in D.C? And by that I mean ALL of them.
Still seems hokey that NOW documents are found …. a little too pat a time …Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
They weren't found NOW, they were found a week or so before the mid-terms. They're only just now letting anyone know about them.Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
Are you one of those conspiracy theorists who see dastardly Republicans behind every tree?
It's curious to me that I've heard no-one speculate on why he had these documents, was he hoping to sell them to the highest bidder as some of you suggested Trump intended. Why aren't some of you speculating?
oh Alan, it was just a misunderstanding, a mix up by old feeble minded Joe. Nothing to see here. Except for the feeble mindedness which *IS*a concern. 6 more years of this? Ugh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
WHY are they not putting pressure on him to declare he will not run and to get someone who is not our Vice.president to run? Ugh.
I may have jested about Trump selling them on eBay, but basically suspected something nefarious because he has no ethics and the whole thing seemed shady. His motivation for power might be similar to a beagle for bacon. I probably need more information to speculate on Biden. Because Trump seemed uncooperative it cast further suspicions and the nature of the documents that related to national security appeared to be concerning. I don't trust either's explanation yet, but it's a matter of degree if not magnitude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
There was a heart-rending piece on the CNN site about how damned busy poor Joe and his staff were in 2017 when the documents got lost. Another “Republicans Pounce” moment, apparently.
Lol. Trump ‘seemed’ uncooperative? That’s the most generous reading of the trump stolen document story I think I’ve ever read. He most absolutely WAS uncooperative. Any other interpretation of what happened is just silly Republican justifying. Kind of like the silly justifying of ‘Santos’ lies about every aspect of his pathetic life.
It seems like haggling over terminology to me, but say Trump "was" uncooperative would that make it obstruction of justice. Guilty as charged or innocent until proven guilty? Is our legal system failing us.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
We’re all aware of the timeline. Comparing what trump did to what biden did is like comparing someone who had a car accident and then left the scene versus someone who had an accident and then stopped, called the police and remained on the scene until the cops came, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogar
Trump repeatedly claimed there was no ‘there’ there as it became obvious to anyone without an R after their name that that there was a lot of ‘there’ there that he was desperately and pathetically trying to deny with multiple lies about whether a full search for docs had been done, etc.
Here is another brilliant move in Missouri
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mis...-covering-arms
What is the matter with lawmakers? Don't they have poverty, homelessness, crime, education policies and so on to deal with?
Telling women to cover their arms reminds me of the old days when a woman reported a rape and the first question was "what were you wearing"
A bunch of morons. Do you really think that was why you were voted into office?
I could not agree with you more. Th stupidity, pearl clutching and grandstanding is ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
At this point, the two factions have drifted apart so much that they no longer share a common reality, and thus no productive discussions can occur.
Be advised.
i hadn’t heard of this new dress code but as I read this article, it it doesn’t concern me. Male legislators are required to have their “arms covered” meaning they are required to wear business attire, a suit and tie. The existing dress code that was not modified requirss women to wear a blazer or sweater.Quote:
Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere
The recent proposal calls for women to wear a jacket.
They are attempting to define professional attire. This alarmist article is a nothing burger.
Which doesn’t mean that the Missouri elected officials do not do stupid things, because they do.
You mean Donald Trump acted in character and was obstreperous about his secret documents while Joe Biden acted in character and was befuddled about his secret documents?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogar
okay.
Yes. Yes, they do think that is why they were voted in to office.Quote:
Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere
my point was there are many pressing issues they need to deal with. Recently you had a thread to point out the rampant crime rate in St Louis and Springfield MO. They need to quit wasting time on stupid crap and deal with this pressing issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
I doubt requiring women to wear jackets is going to affect the crime rate.
To say Trump "was" uncooperative would that make it obstruction of justice. Guilty as charged or innocent until proven guilty? Is our legal system failing us. Speaking of terminology, is uncooperative and obstruction of justice the same?Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
No argument from me that Biden's and Trump's cases are like apples to grapes, but "may be" or "are" illegal". Both "are" wrong
Sort of makes a person wonder how many high level officials have done something similar intentionally or by mistake.
I see they found a third collection of documents in Delaware. You would have thought that when his people first discovered the problem a couple of months ago they would have scoured all his usual haunts. He’s starting to look like a Johnny Appleseed of security failures.
A failed GOP candidate for the state house in New Mexico is accused of conspiring and paying men to shoot at the homes of two democratic legislators and two county officials. Apparently no one was hurt. It seems like the current mentality of the far right GOP encourages some element of irrational anger, lies, threats, and other criminality, as in Santos. Even beyond 1/6.
Another case of egregious lies seems to be developing around J. R. Majewski, an Ohio politician.
“A candidate for the state house” i.e. an average Joe Schmo nutjob since anyone can file candadicy papers.He happens to be of the RepublicN stripe (I am taking your word for it) so of course that is why you are hearing about it on mainstream media.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogar
I guarantee you that the brothers shooting up people and houses in and around my old neighborhood were not voting Republican tickets. And then there are the actual Democratic politicians, recently jailed.
https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/le...y-scheme-case/
We can play tit for tat if you like, but personally I find it to be a boring game.
I wonder why we never hear about the Democrats acting badly on these forums, or anywhere else actually? Do you remember the Democratic official in Las Vegas who killed a reporter a few months ago? Or how about the Democratic former Mayor of a California town arrested a year or so ago for sexual assault on minors?
It's interesting to see the effects of media bias on otherwise reasonable people. Sad, but interesting.
Personally, I think it's because it's more fun to poke at those who are the biggest hypocrites. A party that is selling god, family values, and apple pie should not be surprised when being called out for violating/flouting the values they want to inflict on the rest of us.
Nope. Didn't hear about those. The Las Vegas official was apparently a county clerk, which is even more Joe Schmoe that IL's opinion of a representative in the state house. Going down to that level of officialdom does open up new avenues. Did anyone hear about Tina Peters, a country clerk and failed candidate for secretary of state here who has been charged with 7 felonies including breeches of election security. Makes one wonder about country coroners. I assume the assault on minors was not politically motivated. I don't doubt that there are crooks in both parties, it's just a matter of degree. But, I do suppose it is futile to go back and forth with the various small time political criminals. There are enough bigger fish to fry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
Solomon Peña - I guess if you don't vote for them, they get grumpy....
https://www.abqjournal.com/2565117/s...ans-homes.html
Who are they? Hispanics or Republicans? Or does it matter?Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
Why pick one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
Well, as someone else pointed out, if you pick one as representative of a group it's fun, but we all know if you pick the other as representative of a group, you're a terrible person. I'm curious where the difference lies.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
I'm not sure what you're asking since you may have read the article first. My readers digest version is that the failed republican (IL's just some Joe Schmoe) paid some gangsters $500 to shoot into the homes of four elected democrats. I don't think the gangsters had a party or it's a different kind of party. Police called it a political vendetta.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
https://www.npr.org/2023/01/17/11494...s-solomon-pena
I was curious about who "they" were as referenced in a previous post copied below. As you will note, the use of "them" & "they" indicates a group rather than an individual and I'm not sure which group was being disparaged, or whether it was just for fun or personal bias.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogar
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Solomon Peña - I guess if you don't vote for them, they get grumpy....
George Santos--aka George Devolder, pathological liar; Enrique Tarrio, Proud Boy and convicted felon, Ted Cruz, widely-despised senator, etc. It's clearly a matter of context.
I like Ted Cruz.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
You're apparently not the only one, considering Texas election results, but I've read repeatedly that he's a pariah in the halls of Congress.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
I'm not surprised. You seem to have a thing for mean guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
Come now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
Consider context. In a thread devoted to problematic Republicans, what category do you suppose this example of a problematic Republican falls into?
But you know. You're just "cleverly" disrupting the conversation by raising the Hispanic possibility. And perhaps even trying to throw a bit of shade.
It is transparent.
Annnnnd - speaking of Republicans, it looks like they(*) are going to give George Santos positions on the House Small Business Committee and the House Science, Space and Technology Committee.
And Marjorie Taylor Greene will be on the Oversight and Accountability Committee and the Homeland Security Committee. Especially funny given her 9/11 Truther and Jewish Space Laser beliefs.
They also are letting Paul Gosar step up to the plate.
Sick.
(*) The Republicans, specifically the leadership, specifically specifically the House GOP Steering Committee
I'd counter that this is the most transparent thread ever. I'm more of a killjoy getting under the skin of the cool kids.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
"And Marjorie Taylor Greene will be on the Oversight and Accountability Committee and the Homeland Security Committee. Especially funny given her 9/11 Truther and Jewish Space Laser beliefs."
So one of the instigators/fomenters of the January 6th insurrection, and the politician who recently announced "Vengeance is mine declares the Lord. God will not let evil go unpunished." is back in business. So reassuring.
If it makes you feel any better, I dont likeQuote:
Originally Posted by jp1
marjorie
taylor
greene.
Did I miss the point where she changed her pronouns to he/him? Otherwise she’s not like to be a mean guy like the dicks you love.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
Heck, I thought Allan's response was just the standard Republican obfuscation of the issues, or maybe that he just didn't understand correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae