Conavirus......

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Originally Posted by jp1

Glad to see that your empathy level has moved up from ‘old people are worthless and will die anyway’ to ‘old and frail people can just stay home for the rest of their miserable lives. They can order groceries online so what’s the problem???’

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Or they could wear a mask or a face shield or a hazmat suit or whatever makes them feel comfortable. We all need to be responsible for our own health, not put that on other people for the rest of their lives. Should we all walk around in big sterile bubbles to protect bubble boys? They are also immunocompromised.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/07/u...dnt-touch.html

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Originally Posted by Yppej

Or they could wear a mask or a face shield or a hazmat suit or whatever makes them feel comfortable. We all need to be responsible for our own health, not put that on other people for the rest of their lives. Should we eliminate all hard surfaces in the world because bubble boys might bump into them? After all it isn't fair to make bubble boy live in a bubble. Bubble boy has a right to roam the world and the world must change for him. No hard surfaces! Ban hard surfaces! Let's wrap everything in bubble wrap!!

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Sorry about my previous post. I was mistaken.

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Originally Posted by jp1

Sorry about my previous post. I was mistaken.

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The most famous bubble boy was not a hemophiliac concerned about bumping into things but someone with SCID (severe compromised immunodeficiency). I have corrected my previous post to reflect this. FYI to other forum members - JP1 quoted an older version of my post before I could correct it. But the principle in either case is the same - the degree to which the many must suffer for the benefit of the few - in the current pandemic context 99.99% of the time the few who could be vaccinated but refuse.

COVID is more than a simple respiratory infection; it has far-reaching sequelae, including nervous system--brain damage--and circulatory involvement.

SCID has far-reaching sequelae. Should we all walk around in bubbles to avoid contaminating bubble boys with their weakened immune systems?

SCID is not contagious.
COVID is very contagious, and the Delta variant is even moreso.
I try not to enter into this particular conversation because, as with Facebook, I know I'm not going to change anyone's mind, but I just feel I need to state the obvious here.

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Originally Posted by catherine

SCID is not contagious.
COVID is very contagious, and the Delta variant is even moreso.
I try not to enter into this particular conversation because, as with Facebook, I know I'm not going to change anyone's mind, but I just feel I need to state the obvious here.

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While SCID itself is not contagious, it weakens the immune system so much that pretty much any germ, no matter how innocuous to a regular person, poses a grave risk. I could have a common cold virus and pass it to the bubble boy and kill him. So in that sense it involves contagion.

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Originally Posted by Yppej

While SCID itself is not contagious, it weakens the immune system so much that pretty much any germ, no matter how innocuous to a regular person, poses a grave risk. I could have a common cold virus and pass it to the bubble boy and kill him. So in that sense it involves contagion.

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When contangion can infect and kill not just bubble boys but mothers, fathers, grandparents, friends, colleagues, and even children, I think that makes the two scenarios completely different. It's easy to avoid bubble boys. It's not easy to avoid the average Joe in the street, or your family.

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Originally Posted by catherine

When contangion can infect and kill not just bubble boys but mothers, fathers, grandparents, friends, colleagues, and even children, I think that makes the two scenarios completely different. It's easy to avoid bubble boys. It's not easy to avoid the average Joe in the street, or your family.

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That is why the average Joe in the street should get vaccinated. That is why I avoided my parents (and it was not easy) for a year until they could be vaccinated.

I am not about to do this forever, and neither is my mother. She does not have a lot of lifespan left and she's not going to go backwards because vaccines work.

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Originally Posted by Yppej

That is why the average Joe in the street should get vaccinated. That is why I avoided my parents (and it was not easy) for a year until they could be vaccinated.

I am not about to do this forever, and neither is my mother. She does not have a lot of lifespan left and she's not going to go backwards because vaccines work.

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Agreed.