Conavirus......

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Oh, I don't think it's as selective as you imply. I think most people agree there's a place in society for abortion when the mother's health is in jeopardy or the baby will be born with severe disabilities, the major difference seems to be whether there should be unfettered access to abortions and whether or not a fetus is a person with an unalienable right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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I think men involved in impregnating a woman who doesn't want the baby and can't get an abortion should be castrated. You might say that a vasectomy would suffice, indeed it will prevent the man from doing further damage, but the damage is already done is the problem. If the woman has to endure labor ...

How serious is this proposal? How serious is men (of all things) weighing in on matters that affect biological females exclusively and assuming they have any right to?

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Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore

I think men involved in impregnating a woman who doesn't want the baby and can't get an abortion should be castrated.

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(cough) 8th Amendment (cough)

Barbaric.

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Originally Posted by Yppej

I have thought about getting toothpicks and putting one end against my cheek and the other against the mask to push it out from my face so I can breathe better. If mask mandates continue to proliferate I might try that.

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Originally Posted by Alan

He isn't preventing anyone from keeping students and community safe, he's just putting the onus of protection on the parents and individuals rather than using the force of the state.

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Except that in a pandemic involving an airborne virus efforts at prevention require everyone to participate in order for the effort to be effective. It’s not much freedom if a parent’s only choice for safety is to keep their kids home from school.

I suppose in the coming years the anti science efforts of republicans will include attempting to shutdown the CDC and fire all local public health officials since they have zero respect for the work those organizations and people do.

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Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere

Although that is selective. Want to own guns? Have at it. Just ignore the 20,000 deaths that happened last year. Want to go maskless? No worries. Who cares that you could spread he variant to unvaccinated children and make them very ill or even die. Birth control or abortion? Oooh….wait a minute. We care about unborn lives and too bad how the mother feels, even if there is a good reason. Those women. They have a lot of nerve thinking they have rights.

and by the way, I have to wear a seatbelt, drive the speed limit, to protect myself and others. We are forced to pay into social security whether or not we want to. Masks and vaccinations? Is “freedom” is more important than a life?

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Actually, since you asked the question, yes— freedom is more important than one life.

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Originally Posted by jp1

I suppose in the coming years the anti science efforts of republicans will include attempting to shutdown the CDC and fire all local public health officials since they have zero respect for the work those organizations and people do.

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Well, during the Trump Years, the CDC was basically gutted, it will take years for it to recover.

And I don't know if you have noticed, but large numbers of local public health officials have been leaving the profession during the pandemic. Good luck getting anyone capable to take those jobs in the future.

"Let's strangle civilization in its cradle" - Some Politician

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Originally Posted by iris lilies

Actually, since you asked the question, yes— freedom is more important than one life.

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What is "freedom"?

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Originally Posted by bae

What is "freedom"?

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Such a good question. Looking forward to hearing responses.

ETA: maybe could be framed as freedom to be able to do certain things without scrutiny as well as freedom from being subjected to certain conditions.

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Originally Posted by jp1

I suppose in the coming years the anti science efforts of republicans will include attempting to shutdown the CDC and fire all local public health officials since they have zero respect for the work those organizations and people do.

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I'm not surprised you'd reach that supposition, even though it's silly. ;)

I suspect freedom is either the ability to do whatever you want regardless of it's effect on others. Or else it's the powerful doing what they will and the powerless suffering what they must.