Cop asked to leave cafe because he made a customer "uncomfortable"

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4-3-15, 10:32pm
gimmethesimplelife

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Originally Posted by Yossarian

It's not a matter of understanding, just agreement. I saw a waiter drop food and put it back on the plate and serve it to people. I've heard about waiters putting unsavory things in food to get back at customers (don't ask what's in the cream of mushroom soup). But I am still capable of giving each waiter I work with the benefit of the doubt, am not traumatized to the point of neurosis by the sight of them, and don't run around like chicken little saying everyone should video record every interaction with a waiter to be sure they don't **** up your order and make equivocal statements that maybe just maybe there could be a decent person who works as a waiter somewhere. You really need to seek help.

I forgot to mention that I have known waiters who have spit in food and done other disgusting things with a guests food - this is almost always a case of the server striking back for being treated horribly by a guest. I don't agree with it and I have not done it myself (though over the years I've really wanted to a few times) but I can understand how being treated horribly by a guest you are serving would drive a server to do this. I completely understand even though I don't approve. I have however wished guests death before (under my breath of course) and I have been able to milk horrible treatment in the past when I've had decent managers for time off I've wanted or for a better schedule. Doing nasty things with a guest's food to retaliate I can certainly understand but what's really in it for you? Much better to use it to get something you want instead - i.e. time off you want or Mondays off for awhile or something similar. Though I also understand that as a server you are so vulnerable and so powerless it's easy to get caught up in the heat of the moment and not think logically about how you can use being treated horribly - such as being treated in such a way that would get you fired from many office jobs or at least written up - to your advantage to get something you want. Sometimes you just have to make the most of what you have to work with. Rob
4-4-15, 6:53am
Yossarian

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Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife

There are huge differences between dealing with a waiter and a cop, seriously.

Absolutely, cops have a much bigger impact, for better or worse. Usually for the better, but the point wasn't to equate their contributions to society or to condone bad actions, it was an (apparently ineffective) attempt to get you to start realizing bad acts by a few people in any occupation aren't necessarily cause for a meltdown around all the others. Most people probably feel a little tension when they see a police car pull behind them in traffic. I like to avoid dealing with cops and have seen some cops do some bad things, but overall when looking at it rationally it seems so clear the good outweighs the bad it is hard to support your overreaction.
4-4-15, 7:05am
dmc

Wow, now I find out about waiters. Did you whip out your phone for evidence? Who knows what diseases could be passed along. I hope they were caught and fired imediatly, and then prosecuted and sued.

And to to wish death, really. You take an order and bring out food and drinks. How hard is that?

The police have to actually be concerned with being killed on the job from the thugs out there. Sure you can pick out a few out of the thousands out there, but most are good people. Think how much real stress that they have, are they going to go out on a call about some poor waiter who is being attacked by the local thugs and be ambushed.

Hopefully your community can find a way to have the police stay away. I'm sure that would work out best for everyone.
4-4-15, 7:18am
dmc

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Originally Posted by Yossarian

Absolutely, cops have a much bigger impact, for better or worse. Usually for the better, but the point wasn't to equate their contributions to society or to condone bad actions, it was an (apparently ineffective) attempt to get you to start realizing bad acts by a few people in any occupation aren't necessarily cause for a meltdown around all the others. Most people probably feel a little tension when they see a police car pull behind them in traffic. I like to avoid dealing with cops and have seen some cops do some bad things, but overall when looking at it rationally it seems so clear the good outweighs the bad it is hard to support your overreaction.

Now we know from a waiter that waiters do disgusting things with food. What can we do? Waiters and servers must be held accountable. We must be able to keep them from working and away from our food. Loss of jobs without the ability to work in the food industry again. After long prison time of course. I now know that waiters are scum, I'll start treating them accordingly, that is if I can even deal with them again. I'm just sorry it took me so long to know about this. How can I live in a country that allows this to happen?
4-4-15, 10:56am
Yossarian

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Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife

I can understand how being treated horribly by a guest you are serving would drive a server to do this.

I wonder what it would be like if some of the people in the restaurant were often trying to kill you.
4-4-15, 11:17am
Packy

See, this(and the expense) is just another good reason why I don't go into restaurants, unless I absolutely have to. And then, it is a buffet/cafeteria, where I can decide which portion to take. This is a true story: at the northside pizza buffet 7-8 years ago, a group of young whippersnappers(at least 1/2 a dozen) came in, dressed in cargo shorts and T-shirts and with pistols in holsters. I asked one of them: "Hey--what's the deal with the guns, in here?" You kids know me--making friends wherever I go. Ha. Anyway, the whippersnapper says something like: "We're Police Officers". I just made a funny face and went to my table. I'm just sitting here, still wondering what the necessity is--- for that many able-bodied young men, presumeably schooled in po-lice restraint techniques; to carry weapons into a restaurant, dressed in casual attire & not on patrol and responding to an emergency. Oh, I know: the Espirit de Corps; the Gung-Ho Macho-ness of it. Still, I believe it is inappropriate. REAL Tough Guys Don't Need No 9mm Problem Solver, when going in for pizza.
4-4-15, 11:57am
Alan

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Originally Posted by Packy

See, this(and the expense) is just another good reason why I don't go into restaurants, unless I absolutely have to. And then, it is a buffet/cafeteria, where I can decide which portion to take. This is a true story: at the northside pizza buffet 7-8 years ago, a group of young whippersnappers(at least 1/2 a dozen) came in, dressed in cargo shorts and T-shirts and with pistols in holsters. I asked one of them: "Hey--what's the deal with the guns, in here?" You kids know me--making friends wherever I go. Ha. Anyway, the whippersnapper says something like: "We're Police Officers". I just made a funny face and went to my table. I'm just sitting here, still wondering what the necessity is--- for that many able-bodied young men, presumeably schooled in po-lice restraint techniques; to carry weapons into a restaurant, dressed in casual attire & not on patrol and responding to an emergency. Oh, I know: the Espirit de Corps; the Gung-Ho Macho-ness of it. Still, I believe it is inappropriate. REAL Tough Guys Don't Need No 9mm Problem Solver, when going in for pizza.

If I were a betting man I'd put a few bucks on the fact that they were returning from mandatory firearms qualification on their off-day and decided to stop for lunch, knowing that the safest place for their firearms was on their person rather than in a car in a public parking lot.
4-4-15, 12:23pm
Packy

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Originally Posted by Alan

If I were a betting man I'd put a few bucks on the fact that they were returning from mandatory firearms qualification on their off-day and decided to stop for lunch, knowing that the safest place for their firearms was on their person rather than in a car in a public parking lot.

Yeah-but: the Pizza Place Offered(it's been closed since 2010) a clear view of the Parkin' lot, from where they were sitting. They could have locked their Problem-solvers in the trunk of their vehicle, out of sight, and out of mind. If they observed someone tampering with their motor vehicle(a felony), they could all quickly sprint out to the lot, and place the suspect under arrest. Then, they would get a big favorable write-up in the paper, and share the glory for keeping us safe. Quite frankly--Being unarmed, I was concerned that I might be the loser in a contest to see who gets the last slice of that luscious, yummy, scrumptious piping-hot pepperoni, sausage, and bacon pizza, piled HIGH with oooooeeey-gooooey mozaaaarellllla cheeeeese. Not quite worth taking a bullet over.
4-4-15, 12:33pm
Alan

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Originally Posted by Packy

Quite frankly--Being unarmed, I was concerned that I might be the loser in a contest to see who gets the last slice of that luscious, yummy, scrumptious piping-hot pepperoni, sausage, and bacon pizza, piled HIGH with oooooeeey-gooooey mozaaaarellllla cheeeeese. Not quite worth taking a bullet over.

See, that's the thing about the world these days, if given the choice of a reasonable explanation and an absurd one that happens to fit a perverse viewpoint, reason always loses.
4-4-15, 1:01pm
Packy

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Originally Posted by Alan

See, that's the thing about the world these days, if given the choice of a reasonable explanation and an absurd one that happens to fit a perverse viewpoint, reason always loses.

Okay--here's another one---just suppose that one of the rookie cops has an undiagnosed tumorous growth bearing against his hypermigdalia up there in his brain. Just like the late Eagle Scout and All-American Boy down there in Awestun, Tx, Charlie Whitman. Okay--suppose the stimulus from biting into a slice of piping-hot pizza(and that ooooey-gooey cheese)causes the tumor to expand enough to cause pressure on that part of the brain that I mentioned which controls aggression, & causes the cop to go berserk(like Charlie did back in '66) and start shooting at everyone; gunning down his comrades before they even have a chance to unholster their people-stoppers. Then, reloads, and guns down a bunch of Pizza Buffet Employees & other patrons. See what I mean? Better be safe, than sorry, and put the Guns up until it's official business time. Hope that wasn't too absurd. No one thought Charlie was absurd, but they definitely thought it could've been prevented. Like Barney says: Nip It. Hope that helps you some. Later.

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