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7-18-16, 3:02pm
flowerseverywhere

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Originally Posted by CathyA

I'm pretty sick of all the news.........especially living in Indiana, where the news is all excited about "our" governor being chosen for Trump's VP.........asshole that he is. (Pence, that is. Oh.......and Trump too.) :~) Pence has made some horrible choices.......

What I find ironic is the mayor of Cleveland wanted to have the concealed carry law stopped during the convention. But no. they won't do it. (There might not even be enough time to do something like that). But wouldn't it be funny if the republicans ended up reaping what they sowed??

no it would not be funny at all. It is never funny when people are subject to attempted murder or murder because they believe in a different God than you do, have a different color skin, have different political beliefs or work in a job you dislike. Regardless of my personal political beliefs I hope that both conventions do not result in any more violence and the candidate that is legally elected becomes our next president, whether or not I like them.
7-18-16, 3:29pm
CathyA

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Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere

no it would not be funny at all. It is never funny when people are subject to attempted murder or murder because they believe in a different God than you do, have a different color skin, have different political beliefs or work in a job you dislike. Regardless of my personal political beliefs I hope that both conventions do not result in any more violence and the candidate that is legally elected becomes our next president, whether or not I like them.

I didn't mean funny - haha.........I meant more of "You live by the sword, you die by the sword". Of course it would never be funny. But Republicans are totally inflexible about any kind of any gun legislation. So......
We all have choices in this life, and we have to be responsible for those choices, and also see their potential consequences........to the society.
7-18-16, 4:41pm
iris lilies

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Originally Posted by CathyA

I'm sure there are many more gun owners now. What I have trouble with is that the second amendment is soooo out of context now.

We could probably destroy our nation with most everyone being shot, and gun owners would still refuse to say there's a problem....and cite the 2nd amendment.
And I don't think the media made up all the shootings we're hearing about today. I just don't understand some of you. You're so utterly inflexible to do anything however small, for the good of the whole.
Bae.........you're the one who eats his raisin bran with his gun next to the bowl. Really?
This world has gotten just too crazy. Why stick to a part of the constitution that is adding to such grief in this country? Why not change the constitution, if it would lead to a better society?

You are free to change the constitution, go for it. Until you do, your opinion that the 2nd amendment as written is not useful in today's society is just your opinion.

And giving up more gun rights is not a "small" thing. You are not interested in recognizing that bigger picture and that is fine, that continues to be your opinion. There are plenty of well reasoned arguments that go against yours.
7-18-16, 4:55pm
Ultralight

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Originally Posted by bae

Pretty sure you're out of line there.

Are you sure she is not just saying you're tough?
7-18-16, 4:56pm
Ultralight

Again, I don't understand why the GOP would ban guns anywhere in the festivities.
7-18-16, 5:24pm
LDAHL

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Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler

Again, I don't understand why the GOP would ban guns anywhere in the festivities.

Did the GOP have a choice to ban or not? I would think most states that have open or concealed carry laws permit private facilities to ban guns on their premises. I would also suspect few big venues would permit firearms (or various other items, such as glass bottles) to either limit their liability exposure or for marketing reasons.
7-18-16, 5:26pm
CathyA

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Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler

Again, I don't understand why the GOP would ban guns anywhere in the festivities.

......because they know Karma can be a bitch? :~)
7-18-16, 5:45pm
Ultralight

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Originally Posted by bae

I find it interesting how gleeful my local progressive community is at the thought of potential open-carry/concealed-carry problems at the convention. It's almost like they can't wait for the blood to flow. It's usually one of the first "thoughts" out of their mouths at conversation.

I you sure you are reading them right? This sounds a bit over the top.
7-18-16, 6:12pm
Alan

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Originally Posted by CathyA

Well, it just seems like we should have a little flexibility at reasonable times......considering the use of guns these days, and the numbers of atrocities that have happened.

So, would you be in favor of someone like myself being able to nullify your individual rights such as due process, protection against unreasonable search & seizure or the right not to incriminate yourself? Should you be flexible on these points if I think it's reasonable?
7-18-16, 8:05pm
iris lilies

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

Did the GOP have a choice to ban or not? I would think most states that have open or concealed carry laws permit private facilities to ban guns on their premises. I would also suspect few big venues would permit firearms (or various other items, such as glass bottles) to either limit their liability exposure or for marketing reasons.

I wndered too if the weapns ban was the policy d the facility.

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