How Soon Will You Get a Booster?

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8-18-21, 8:39pm
iris lilies

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Originally Posted by Yppej

One way to effect change is for everyone to say I won't get a booster until everyone gets a first dose.

Canada tried a variation of this albeit not with a booster - no one got a second dose until everyone had a first dose who wanted one. So there was a lag of much more than 3 or 4 weeks between doses. This is also one reason for the delay in opening the border with the US.

Think of the men who could have gotten in lifeboats but said no, take the more vulnerable women and children first. Maybe altruism went down with the Titanic. Because someone with no protection against the vaccine is much more vulnerable than someone with waning protection.

i believe I AM doing society a favor by getting a 3rd vaccine when available Because I will be one of those people who is on a respirator. I’m saving that resource for someone else.
8-18-21, 8:55pm
ApatheticNoMore

And what if vaccines decrease a significant amount in effectiveness against serious outcomes? Are we going to shut things down again? Why not? If we don't want to rely on vaccines ... which is the way out, we need other measures right like social distancing, masks, shut downs. An effective treatment would be nice, of course, and is theoretically a way out too of course, but we don't seem to be there yet.

But it's very unclear how much they are decreasing in effectiveness against serious outcomes how fast.
8-18-21, 8:58pm
frugal-one

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Originally Posted by Yppej

I like the interchange of ideas and scenarios. This issue raises very real considerations with global implications. If you like shallow sound bites you can add me to your ignore list.

These are not real considerations and will NEVER happen..... totally redundant. So, let's not ...
8-18-21, 9:02pm
frugal-one

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yppej

One way to effect change is for everyone to say I won't get a booster until everyone gets a first dose.

Canada tried a variation of this albeit not with a booster - no one got a second dose until everyone had a first dose who wanted one. So there was a lag of much more than 3 or 4 weeks between doses. This is also one reason for the delay in opening the border with the US.

Think of the men who could have gotten in lifeboats but said no, take the more vulnerable women and children first. Maybe altruism went down with the Titanic. Because someone with no protection against the vaccine is much more vulnerable than someone with waning protection.

Not going to happen ... another redundancy.
8-18-21, 9:03pm
frugal-one

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Originally Posted by Yppej

Oh we know you're a hero. You tell us all the time.

Isn't it interesting that to some heroes are always first responders or people in the military, or those who survived cancer or some other serious illness? What a narrow vision. It makes watching the local news a little annoying. Why isn't the civil rights activist or the anti-war protestor or the teacher who's not terminally ill or the woman standing out in public today in Kabul with a sign demanding her rights a hero?

And just because I don't want to donate to your pet charity doesn't mean squat. I am altruistic in other ways.

Haven't seen it yet.
8-18-21, 9:04pm
Yppej

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Originally Posted by frugal-one

These are not real considerations and will NEVER happen..... totally redundant. So, let's not ...

A variation of it happened in Canada.

The World Health Organization is advocating for it.

Given that more serious variants that no vaccine could protect against would arise most readily in countries with large unvaccinated populations (as Delta did in India) that's a real concern. Of course poor countries can't pay what pharmaceutical companies want to charge, whereas Americans or Uncle Sam on their behalf will pay for boosters every 8 months ad infinitum.
8-18-21, 9:05pm
Teacher Terry

I totally agree with you IL.
8-18-21, 9:10pm
Yppej

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Originally Posted by frugal-one

Haven't seen it yet.

I was raised on Matthew 6:3-5.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...-5&version=NIV

I wonder how you were raised.
8-18-21, 9:11pm
frugal-one

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Originally Posted by Yppej

A variation of it happened in Canada.

The World Health Organization is advocating for it.

Given that more serious variants that no vaccine could protect against would arise most readily in countries with large unvaccinated populations (as Delta did in India) that's a real concern. Of course poor countries can't pay what pharmaceutical companies want to charge, whereas Americans or Uncle Sam on their behalf will pay for boosters every 8 months ad infinitum.

No it didn't happen.... The cumulative percent of people who have received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine in Canada was 71.43%, as of August 7, 2021. That is not even close to everyone. It is not going to happen.
8-18-21, 9:12pm
frugal-one

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Originally Posted by Yppej

I was raised on Matthew 6:3-5.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...-5&version=NIV

I wonder how you were raised.

I think if you had the means the world WOULD hear about it. You keep bragging about how altruistic you are ... Which is not true.

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