Biden drops out of race

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Originally Posted by Rogar

Maybe he can stash some nuclear top secret documents in his bathroom for future reference or to show his pals at cocktail parties.

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It's interesting that it's been over a year since people started spreading that allegation and yet no one has ever verified that any nuclear secrets were found in Trump's possession. The closest anyone can come is the allegation that he told a friend how many warheads were typically found on a nuclear submarine, and that was considered sensitive information rather than secret or top secret. Please feel free to correct me on that if I'm wrong.

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Originally Posted by Alan

It's interesting that it's been over a year since people started spreading that allegation and yet no one has ever verified that any nuclear secrets were found in Trump's possession. The closest anyone can come is the allegation that he told a friend how many warheads were typically found on a nuclear submarine, and that was considered sensitive information rather than secret or top secret. Please feel free to correct me on that if I'm wrong.

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Well, I'm not sure I understand this, but it is inexcusable regardless. A little more time and research might show more.

• 15 boxes provided by Trump to NARA in January 2022. These contained 197 classified documents: 98 at SECRET; 30 at TOP SECRET; the remainder at Confidential. Some additionally had Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI) and Special Access Program (SAP) markings.
• During the FBI search of Mar-a-Lago Club, a further 102 documents, recovered from Trump’s office and a storage room. These included 17 documents at TOP SECRET; 54 at SECRET; 31 at CONFIDENTIAL. Of these, Trump’s office held 6 at TOP SECRET; 18 at SECRET; and 3 at CONFIDENTIAL.

https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article...ump-indictment

Attachment 5989

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Originally Posted by Tradd

Chicago again. Just like 1968. But no dirty hippies, no hickory shampoo, and no old man Daley.

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Not 1968, but still a pretty colorful cast of characters. They’ve got one of America’s most riot-friendly mayors (It’s not a mob, it’s a “large gathering”). No Yippies, but perhaps some of the keffiyeh crowd may show up. Maybe even some other activist subspecies.

Now that the President has been politically euthanized, we will either see a stage-managed coronation or some Game of Thrones action on the convention floor. Either is bound to leave some unhappy players.

Should be quite a show.

So, of all the possible replacements for Joe that are being bandied about:
a) Regardless of your own party affiliation, who do you think is the best choice?
b) If you were on the fence before this summer's events, would that person change your vote? If so, in what way?

Possible candidates:

• Kamala Harris
• Gretchen Whitmer
• Josh Shapiro
• Joe Manchin
• JB Pritzker
• Pete Buttigieg
• Other

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Originally Posted by catherine

So, of all the possible replacements for Joe that are being bandied about:
a) Regardless of your own party affiliation, who do you think is the best choice?
b) If you were on the fence before this summer's events, would that person change your vote? If so, in what way?

Possible candidates:

• Kamala Harris
• Gretchen Whitmer
• Josh Shapiro
• Joe Manchin
• JB Pritzker
• Pete Buttigieg
• Other

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I heard this morning that Joe Manchin says he’s not running. Wants a “mini-primary”.

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

I heard this morning that Joe Manchin says he’s not running. Wants a “mini-primary”.

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Too bad. He'd be an interesting choice--the Dem JD Vance. He might influence independents and swing voters because of his conservative take on many Democratic issues. I personally would prefer someone else, but I think he would be a good choice to pit against Trump.

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Originally Posted by catherine

So, of all the possible replacements for Joe that are being bandied about:
a) Regardless of your own party affiliation, who do you think is the best choice?
b) If you were on the fence before this summer's events, would that person change your vote? If so, in what way?

Possible candidates:

• Kamala Harris
• Gretchen Whitmer
• Josh Shapiro
• Joe Manchin
• JB Pritzker
• Pete Buttigieg
• Other

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Jelly Bean Prickster as prez? That makes me laugh. He is the gov of IL.

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Originally Posted by Tradd

Jelly Bean Prickster as prez? That makes me laugh. He is the gov of IL.

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Well, it looks like he's dropped out of contention, too. They're dropping like flies! My bet is Kamala gets the nomination because even though she is not popular, at least she's known. For a lesser-known candidate to build a relationship with a whole country in 4 months would be almost impossible, unless there were an obvious person out there, which there isn't. Maybe if George Clooney ran, people might get excited--the celebrity culture that we are. But at this point, I think it should be Kamala. She can't get that much worse in the polls and if she succeeds in getting better and winning people over in 4 months, the Dems may have a shot at betting Trump. The key is who she picks for VP. So in that case, they're saying Shapiro or Whitmer would be good but I would say Shapiro because he can be the PA proxy for Joe and I think two women on the ticket would make most of the country's heads explode.

Some of the big media outlets seem to already be anointing Harris. You’re seeing more of an emphasis on people saying they’re not in the running and speculation on VP contenders. Looks like the Party and media elites are closing ranks.

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Originally Posted by catherine

Well, it looks like he's dropped out of contention, too. They're dropping like flies! My bet is Kamala gets the nomination because even though she is not popular, at least she's known. For a lesser-known candidate to build a relationship with a whole country in 4 months would be almost impossible, unless there were an obvious person out there, which there isn't. Maybe if George Clooney ran, people might get excited--the celebrity culture that we are. But at this point, I think it should be Kamala. She can't get that much worse in the polls and if she succeeds in getting better and winning people over in 4 months, the Dems may have a shot at betting Trump. The key is who she picks for VP. So in that case, they're saying Shapiro or Whitmer would be good but I would say Shapiro because he can be the PA proxy for Joe and I think two women on the ticket would make most of the country's heads explode.

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Kamala will be their pick and her poll numbers will get better once mainstream media has an opportunity to extol her virtues and build her up. Just let them do their job of promoting the Democratic ticket. she might even win the election.

Gretchen Whitmore will not be the vice president candidate because she doesn’t want it.