Conspiracy Theories

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Originally Posted by catherine

I don't like all of her articles, either, but she's a great writer--funny and smart.

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Today I absolutely shocked myself by reading a Judith Butler interview and agreeing with much of what she said. I actually agreed with her assessment of most things until she got into the world of “the right “where some of what she said is probably true, but it’s not true about me at all. Butler is the originator of all that is identity politics, an academic Marxist.

But then, I have to remember she is a bit of an old lady who will be thrown under the bus if she hasn’t already. She makes the distinction between sex and gender. So many contemporary transactivists do not make that distinction. In my mind that is their downfall.

okay----there is a group out there that posits that not ALL nazis were mean, but that there were some really nice ones, as well. But yeah---that's my contribution to this discussion. Thank mee.

okay-----here's another conspiracy theory: there are those who believe that the Beverly Hills Supper Club fire in Southgate, Ky was an arson, not faulty wiring. The facility had had several arson fires previously, allegedly linked to organized crime and disgruntled laborers. Southgate, in case you don't know is near Cincinnatti. Yup. In fact, I just ordered a book chronicling the events, titled: "Forbidden Fruit". Yup.

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Originally Posted by iris lilies

Today I absolutely shocked myself by reading a Judith Butler interview and agreeing with much of what she said. I actually agreed with her assessment of most things until she got into the world of “the right “where some of what she said is probably true, but it’s not true about me at all. Butler is the originator of all that is identity politics, an academic Marxist.

But then, I have to remember she is a bit of an old lady who will be thrown under the bus if she hasn’t already. She makes the distinction between sex and gender. So many contemporary transactivists do not make that distinction. In my mind that is their downfall.

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I looked up Judith Butler--I didn't know of her. I'm not that interested in radical feminism. The radical feminist I'm most familiar with and have the most respect for is Lierre Keith, Derrick Jensen's sidekick. You would probably like her because she advocates against what she considers violence toward women as explemplified by things like rights for transwomen to use women's bathrooms.

Here is the Wikipedia description of one of the organization's policies, which she chairs:
"The Women's Liberation Front's activism finds its source in second-wave feminist tendencies, such as those of Mary Daly and Janice Raymond, which consider transgender identities untrue and say that women are defined by "their biology and by having 'survived girlhood'", rather than by gender identity.[3] While considered a fringe group by the mainstream progressives, who say the group conceals an essentially discriminatory right-wing ideology under the guise of feminism,[3] the organization has found influence through collaboration with conservative groups on shared legislative views."

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Originally Posted by catherine

I looked up Judith Butler--I didn't know of her. I'm not that interested in radical feminism. The radical feminist I'm most familiar with and have the most respect for is Lierre Keith, Derrick Jensen's sidekick. You would probably like her because she advocates against what she considers violence toward women as explemplified by things like rights for transwomen to use women's bathrooms.

Here is the Wikipedia description of one of the organization's policies, which she chairs:
"The Women's Liberation Front's activism finds its source in second-wave feminist tendencies, such as those of Mary Daly and Janice Raymond, which consider transgender identities untrue and say that women are defined by "their biology and by having 'survived girlhood'", rather than by gender identity.[3] While considered a fringe group by the mainstream progressives, who say the group conceals an essentially discriminatory right-wing ideology under the guise of feminism,[3] the organization has found influence through collaboration with conservative groups on shared legislative views."

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I won’t urge you to read Judith Butler because I won’t read any more of what she says, but she is important in crafting idealogy for the far left.


I like that quote from Ms. Keith. It is the old broads of 2nd wave feminism who first sounded the alarm in my head about the danger of this “trans women are women” stuff. There’s yet another “woman’s space “that has been invaded by men, the Le Leche League. I will write about it on my trans thread. As usual, The Brits are ahead of us in seeing and addressing these threats.

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Originally Posted by catherine

I'm not talking about the ones that have been bandied about during this election cycle. I'm talking about old ones--ones that I can kind of buy into.

I was just reading about James Earl Ray and how some say he was just a scapegoat--even the King family believes that Ray never shot MLK.

Then when you think about the other "lone" shooters of the 60s--Sirhan Sirhan and Lee Harvey Oswald--I just wonder what their motivation was? And the fact that Ruby shot Oswald--I don't buy it was an emotional response to his patriotism. I am open to the idea of more "motivated" suspects in both of those assassinations.

And then there's poor Pierre Salinger whose reputation went from respect to ridicule after maintaining that TWA 800 as shot down by "friendly fire"--which I think is another plausible alternative for what really happened.

Where do you stand on conspiracies--these or others? Do you think about them, or do you accept the findings of the various commissions that have ruled on them a long time ago?

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The only difference between Lee Harvey Oswald and the dude whose name no one remembers that grazed trump’s ear with a bullet at a rally a few months ago is that Oswald had better aim.

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Originally Posted by jp1

The only difference between Lee Harvey Oswald and the dude whose name no one remembers that grazed trump’s ear with a bullet at a rally a few months ago is that Oswald had better aim.

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Give it time. The JFK mythology took years to reach its present state. Perhaps years from now we will see Trump assassination websites.

So I heard that if a person takes a government job, even if it's with token pay, they can sell assets that would constitute a conflict of interest and not pay capital gains. As in Elon. Unconfirmed.

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Originally Posted by Rogar

So I heard that if a person takes a government job, even if it's with token pay, they can sell assets that would constitute a conflict of interest and not pay capital gains. As in Elon. Unconfirmed.

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Maybe we are back to the Robber Baron era. Will have to bone up on my Edith Wharton.

Apparently Elon claimed on X that Bezos warned people to sell Tesla and and Space X stock before the election, which Bezos has denied. The titans seem to be at odds with each other. I understand why people waste their time on X, but it's still something of a mystery to me. There seems to be a migration away from X to Blue Sky, which also seems like a time sink.