They're bound to be as third-rate as every other Trump appointee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
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They're bound to be as third-rate as every other Trump appointee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
Funny you'd feel that way. It didn't happen to the immediately previous supreme court candidate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
I see Trump is recirculating tweets about civil war if he is impeached. Somehow I find that about as reasonable as all those Third Reich analogies and conspiracy daydreams equally silly people have been making.
I look forward to the coming orgy of hearings, leaks and punditry beginning and ending as soon as possible. I hope it’s enough to get the voters to start punishing ridiculously overwrought rhetoric.
Accusing a member of Congress of "treason" was a bit much too, don't ya think?
I am not looking forward to all the drama.
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Originally Posted by Teacher Terry
+1
I was reading where if they removed Trump, and if Pence somehow had gotten tied into the mess and he also left office, then it would be President Pelosi. That's a thought to entertain, although a slight fantasy.
I have no doubt some of the best minds in the muck production industry are even now seining through his high school years for usefully smelly nuggets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogar
Indeed. And probably one of the many reasons the republicans very much don't want to go through with this. If Pence is deep enough in this to warrant being taken out I imagine they would do like with nixon. Get Pence out first, get a new placeholder VP, and then take trump out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogar
Article #10 of Andrew Johnson's impeachment: Making three speeches with intent to "attempt to bring into disgrace, ridicule, hatred, contempt and reproach, the Congress of the United States". Trump has obviously done this multiple times against various members of congress, most recently accusing a member of treason.
Not enough votes in the Senate to toss him out, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Werent enough back in the day either apparently.
That’s who I was referring to.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
keeping my fingers crossed it’s Kasich.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Apparently The Thug Of Orange had a meltdown (and provided quite the photo op for the world to see once more what Americans are being expected to endure) with the President of Finland, a much better country in many ways.
This to me alone and in of itself should be sufficient grounds for removal from office. I am no fan of Mike Pence but at least Pence would behave much more appropriately in such situations and not embarrass an already humiliated nation further for no real gain nor reason. Rob
I'm no conservative as you all know.....but if we have to have a Rrpublican at the helm, I'd much rather have Kasich than Trump or Pence. RobQuote:
Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere
trump now IN PERSON for all the world to see asked China and Ukraine to investigate Biden and son. Looks like the whistleblower is no longer necessary. trump also threw Pence under the bus and Pence agreed with trump. Wouldn't it be funny for trump to have to say President Pelosi????
Underpants Gnome Plan:Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
1) Trump resigns before conviction
2) Pence becomes President
3) Pence appoints Trump as VP
4) Pence resigns
5) Trump becomes President
6) Profit
Underpants Gnome Plan ... whatever that means? Even if goes as you say... trump is done for 2020.
I had to look it up, but enjoyed reading about it. It's from South Park, the cartoon.Quote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
That would be some crazy chit there man.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
His meltdown was funny to watch.
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Originally Posted by Teacher Terry
He's losing his mind as he cannot control this country after all. News clip I saw this morning, he couldn't remember Ukraine in his rant about China needing to investigate Biden.
yes I heard that, but Biden literally seems to think it's a reasonable thing to say that "noone's copays will be more than $1000".. stumbling over the word Ukraine (uh the entire of the scandal) starts to look "with it" compared to talking about $1000 copays ...my heavens ... >8) Yea I really can't wait for that healthcare plan - not.Quote:
He's losing his mind as he cannot control this country after all. News clip I saw this morning, he couldn't remember Ukraine in his rant about China needing to investigate Biden.
Anyone but those two (Trump and Biden), would be better and probably mentally all there as well. Problem is we really genuinely need a heck of a lot more than that but ..
Now that Volker brought the quid pro quo receipts and trump solicited election aid from a foreign adversary on national tv yesterday is it finally time to impeach and remove or do we still have to wait for him to lie about a blow job?
Ay carumba, impeachment? Surprise, surprise, folks. I'm against a Trump impeachment and on this one I have zilch or close to it support in my infamous zip code. Whatever. I've always had the strength to stand alone provided I believe in said stand.
I'm not morphing into a Trump supporter. Nope, no can do. I do however question the impact of an impeachment in a primarily service economy with such income equality as we face in America. Many of those screaming for impeachment in the 85006 could well find themselves out of work. I would personally be down with his finishing out his term only.to suffer the humiliation of an embarrassing election loss. Rob
I don't disagree with your take per se, jp1. Matter of fact I mostly agree with it. I just am against impeachment as I believe the economy isn't fundamentally healthy enough to withstand it without millions being thrown out of work. RobQuote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Why, exactly, do you think removing a corrupt president from office will be bad for the economy.
Fair question, jp1. Right now hiring is slowing down, the stock market is showing volatility (wide swings in short amounts of time), the trade war with China continues unabated, and large US corporations have quietly revved up layoffs. I'm no Trump supporter....that has not changed one iota. I just worry that a Trump impeachment may be a big enough domino to bring the house of cards down. That's all....no GOP support meant in this but only concern for the lowly paid service workers who make up the bulk of the current US economy. RobQuote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Funny yes but scary too in an utterly flabbergasting way. I expected Rod Serling to materialize and begin his 60's Twilght Zone sthick/narration. As in You Have Now Entered The Twilight Zone....next stop witnessing the meltdown of an unstable man bizarrely elected as President of the largest economy on Earth. Or something along those lines. What's even scarier is that Trump supporters continue to ignore/excuse this behavior away. RobQuote:
Originally Posted by Teacher Terry
SO told me about this this morning and was like.....you can't be serious that you don't want this pinched pendejo (not exactly flattering if you translate this) impeached. He is becoming obviously more unhinged by the day. Let's hope it doesn't lead to irrevocable tragedy before his term is up. I can't even fathom the concept of his being reelected. RobQuote:
Originally Posted by Gardnr
We can't cower in terror all day long about when the economy might deliver a recession. It's ridiculous.
It will eventually by the business cycle anyway. It's inevitable, we aren't going to outrun this one indefinitely. And it doesn't just matter what the U.S. does because while those things have some influence recessions are truly global in nature. And if we get a recession and that recession gets rid of Trump ... I want him gone.
But a recession is inevitable at some point anyway. If people have to take into account, I would much rather people just vote for someone who would make a decent president in a recession that we will inevitably get anyway.
And if we keep having to vote based on what the stock market wants, ugh no, nothing good is ever going to happen that way. We will never get good policies that way.
I also see about ZERO PROBABILITY, that the impeachment of a President will still can't remove from office that way will lead to a recession. I'm just tired of being told to vote for whatever the stock market wants today.
I just went to YouTube and keyed in Trump meltdown with Finnish President. The first video that popped up.was from an Australian news program, featuring two female reporters. This is not a mgtow/men's right post.....I'm just stating the two reporters handling this story were female. And they did not like Trump - they seemed to glow a bit at the prospect of a Trump impeachment. Understandable as Trump had not spared Australia from his sthick/regularly scheduled insanity.
I post this as this Australian news outlet gave me hope that much of the world beyond the US is seeing Trump as I do, and not only Austria. I'm still against an impeachment as I don't want the 85006 or any of you or America at large to suffer from another Great Recession or worse. But I do take hope that the prospect of a Trump impeachment is spreading some joy beyond US borders. Rob
We are experiencing the lowest unemployment rate in fifty years, and the highest wage growth is occurring in the bottom quartile among your lowly paid service workers. If Mrs. Clinton were in office right now, you’d be singing “Happy Days are Here Again”.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife
That being said, I don’t understand the superstition that President’s somehow control and are accountable for the state of the economy. It’s too large and complex to be centrally managed, no matter how many “plans” are stuffed into some political hack’s portfolio.
To complete the picture, the stock market has basically been flat for the last two years, mining and manufacturing jobs have barely grown, family sized farms are not able to compete and stay profitable, interest rates are so low that those of us wishing to invest conservatively can barely keep up with inflation if at all, any growth due to deregulation of the oil and gas industry has come about partially at the cost of increased greenhouse gasses, and the gap between the higher paying and lower paying jobs continues to grow. And a growing number of financial analysts think were are on the verge of a recession, which may or may not come to be. It's not all rosy but certainly not all bad either.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
No doubt the president cannot totally control the economy, but the two are not independent, either.
I’m not saying it’s all rosy. It’s never all rosy. There surely will be another recession You don’t need experts to predict that. The trick is knowing when.
But I think the voters and the people who pander to them and try to frighten them suffer from a certain illusion of control. I certainly think that in the long run government can have some impact, often unintended and often for the worse.
One of my biggest grievances with Trump is that his fall may open the door to a new generation of economic witch doctors who think they can bend markets to their will or even eliminate the need for markets altogether by allocatingresources by fiat of a credentialed elite. I think we can expect to hear a lot more about modern monetary theory, and how deficits can be rendered irrelevant by skillfully debasing the currency.
I think it would be fair enough to say that the economy is doing ok, but maybe not as great as the unemployment figures might indicate, and it is showing signs of slowing. Some of the sectors Trump has promised to help really haven't done much.
MMT is crazy enough of a proposition that any fear of it becoming reality is distant if not remote, in my humble opinion. I think some its basis comes from the fact that there doesn't seem to but a ceiling to how much debt we can incur and that fiat currency is really nothing new. The fact that debt has increased so much under T is risky enough in itself.
I think you meant "pinche pendejo." At least that's how I read it. :D And I couldn't agree more.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife
LOL As usual, Jane, you are dead on. I did mean pinche pendejo....damn autocorrect on this phone! And these two words are indeed an accurate description of Donald J Trump. RobQuote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
Where to even begun unpacking that...?Quote:
Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife