Conavirus......

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Originally Posted by Tybee

So glad you were able to get back to church, Tradd. One of these Sundays I will have to brave it! Church of Zoom does not work for me very well, although I tried it.

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So was I! Communion is administered in the Orthodox Church with a spoon. The cut up pieces of the bread are in a chalice of wine that the priest spoons from. Everyone ordinarily is given Communion with the same spoon. Our priest bought a large number of stainless steel iced tea spoons (long handle). A different spoon is used for each communicant. After the service, they are rinsed in alcohol and then washed in very hot water and soap.

Added: We are allowed 30 people at a service. That includes priest, 2 altar servers, and 2 singers. The rest of us are asked NOT to sing due to possible enhanced spread of that plague that way. So, 25 people in the congregation.

My priest has instituted a Google signup document. Every two weeks its sent out for the Sunday Liturgy (Eucharist), Saturday evening Vespers (evening prayer), and any feast day services in those two weeks. Apparently, if there are no spaces available, you won't be able to sign up.

That also. And more importantly.

i was thinking of the ones who say “God will protect me.”

There was actually a woman on the news near me who said she wasn’t worried about the virus because she was washed in the blood of Christ. And my Dd asked “so, is she saying she doesn’t mind dying, or does she think that’s like a vaccine?”

It’s ridiculous how some people think God will protect them and not others. I guess because they are special:))

What I want to know is why God would protect someone from coronavirus but wouldn't protect them from a bad guy with a gun.

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Originally Posted by SteveinMN

What I want to know is why God would protect someone from coronavirus but wouldn't protect them from a bad guy with a gun.

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I doubt anyone thinks God will save them from anything, it's more likely they believe whatever happens is part of His plan for them with Heaven being their reward. At least that's how my Grandmother explained it to me.

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Originally Posted by Alan

I doubt anyone thinks God will save them from anything, it's more likely they believe whatever happens is part of His plan for them with Heaven being their reward. At least that's how my Grandmother explained it to me.

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Whatever works for you... seriously.

I, personally, like this response when discussions regarding "religion" arise:

http://loveneverending.com/the-best-...leonardo-boff/

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In a round table discussion about religion and freedom in which Dalai Lama and myself were participating at recess, I maliciously and also with interest, asked him: “Your holiness, what is the best religion?”

I thought he would say: “The Tibetan Buddhism” or “The oriental religions, much older than Christianity.” The Dalai Lama paused, smiled and looked me in the eyes…which surprised me because I knew of the malice contained in my question.
He answered: “The best religion is the one that gets you closest to God. It is the one that makes you a better person.”

To relieve my embarrassment with such a wise answer, I asked: “What is it that makes me better?”

He responded:
“Whatever makes you
more compassionate,
more sensible,
more detached,
more loving,
more humanitarian,
more responsible,
more ethical.
The religion that will do that for you is the best religion.”

In WI, the positivity rate on the tests reported on 7/12 was 10.1% I understand this to mean that for every 100 tests, about 10 Wisconsinites are positive for COVID-19.
So, it looks like Wisconsin is getting sicker.
The positivity rate used to be in the 2-4% range.
Then it was in the 4-10% range... and now we are again at the top of that range.

My 14-Day Moving Average of new cases in the state hit a low on 6/19 at 278.9 At that time I believed we could look forward to returning to normal, if the new cases kept on dropping.
Today the 14-DMA of new cases in WI is up to 600.

In addition to taking all reasonable precautions in my own family and home, I believe it is necessary to brace for bad news... people I know may be in quarantine in the near future. And bracing for the possibility of worse news that may follow.

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Originally Posted by Alan

I doubt anyone thinks God will save them from anything.

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If that is what people believe, it certainly is not how many of them express it in everyday terms. And it puts a huge dent in intercessory prayer.

I’m positive.

If this were happening a year ago I would tell you that I have a cold and I feel tired. Because of our work regulations I was tested on Friday and just got the results this evening.

I’ll keep you all informed so we can learn about this together.

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Originally Posted by Tammy

I’m positive.

If this were happening a year ago I would tell you that I have a cold and I feel tired. Because of our work regulations I was tested on Friday and just got the results this evening.

I’ll keep you all informed so we can learn about this together.

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So sorry to hear this. Please keep us updated.

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I’m positive.

If this were happening a year ago I would tell you that I have a cold and I feel tired. Because of our work regulations I was tested on Friday and just got the results this evening.

I’ll keep you all informed so we can learn about this together.

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hope you get well soon, or as soon as is possible with this thing

Wishing you a speedy recovery and lifelong immunity Tammy.

I'm sorry to hear that Tammy. I hope you feel better soon.

I am sorry this happened, and am praying for your speedy recovery.

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Originally Posted by Tammy

I’m positive.

If this were happening a year ago I would tell you that I have a cold and I feel tired. Because of our work regulations I was tested on Friday and just got the results this evening.

I’ll keep you all informed so we can learn about this together.

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I'm so sorry to hear. Please do keep us posted, Tammy...

We'll all be thinking about you.

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Originally Posted by Tammy

I’m positive.

If this were happening a year ago I would tell you that I have a cold and I feel tired. Because of our work regulations I was tested on Friday and just got the results this evening.

I’ll keep you all informed so we can learn about this together.

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(((Tammy))) Wishing you a full and fast recovery!

So sorry, Tammy. I hope it passes quickly and without complications.

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Originally Posted by jp1

It’s not that 20% of the people randomly wear masks. It’s that people with symptoms of a cold or flu wear them. As a social courtesy to try and not infect other people. I realize that there is a not insignificant number of people in the US who can’t imagine doing anything to slightly inconvenience themselves for the benefit of others so we’re not likely to see similar behavior here. Hell, we often don’t even see it here in the middle of a deadly pandemic.

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My comment was not actually Covid or mask specific; I just wish we placed more value on social courtesy as a culture. However, I do like the idea of people wearing masks out in public if they have head colds.

Tammy,

Let's hope for the best. Sending you a virtual bouquet.

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My comment was not actually Covid or mask specific; I just wish we placed more value on social courtesy as a culture. However, I do like the idea of people wearing masks out in public if they have head colds.

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I have the same wishes.

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Originally Posted by rosarugosa

My comment was not actually Covid or mask specific; I just wish we placed more value on social courtesy as a culture. However, I do like the idea of people wearing masks out in public if they have head colds.

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I agree. Masks aren't only effective against COVID transmission.

Tammy, I hope yours is one of the mild cases the media keep emphasizing, and that it resolves quickly and without lingering effects.

Tammy, best wishes for a fast recovery.

Thanks all. My primary symptom is fatigue. The sore throat is gone. But wow I am tired. Sleeping all the time ...

All good thoughts toward you, Tammy. Hope you're feeling better and recuperating well.

Hopefully the rest will make you feel better, Tammy!

HermanN summer school is in full swing here. Students were lining up on the steps to get into the building. Later, I saw them playing on the playground. The school bus is running down our street.

There have been 15 cases of virus in Gasconade County. For the longest time, I would say about three months until mid June, they were around 4-6.

Our state is doing fine, but I don’t wanna rest on our laurels. We may get the scurge big-time, who knows.

IL still has about a 3% positivity rate.

My local grocery store (Jewel, major chain here) actually took the stickers off the floor indicating one way aisles. I was very happy with that.

Positivity rate is about 6.5-16.5% about 9.5% 7 day average here, cases increasing, positivity rate is mostly used to indicate insufficient testing, so if it's over 4% or so it's insufficient says the WHO. Insufficient testing and this thing is not even kind of over here, it will probably gets worse before it gets better, if it ever gets better. I have yet to see any one way isle stickers, checkout distance stickers yes.

And so Cali is in shutdown again for many counties, partial shut down for all, non-essential as well as essential retail may still be allowed and outdoor only dining, but not much else like gyms and hair salons. I literally never went out of shutdown for that stuff, ha simple living skills serving well. I socialized a bit sure, outdoors and with masks and distance etc. The fools spreading this aren't me, except that anyone might inadvertently, asymptomatically go to the grocery store with a mask and still do so or something since nothing's perfect and we have to do what we have to do.

IL had about 885 new cases the last 24 hours and only 6 deaths.

My state had 154 new cases and 5 new deaths today, and the big freedom that our governor is restoring to us since numbers have dropped precipitously? We can take reusable bags to the grocery store again.

We're over 7000 cases a day in California (only maybe #12 per capita). I think they should give us all the freedom to get cases to at least 10k, 20k, more and overwhelm the hospitals, #1 per capita baby! Nah, not really.

Today I did some things that were normal.


I went to the local pharmacy in Hermann and had my second shingles shot. By the way, what are you people paying for it? Each one is $170. There are two shots in the series.


My library cards have expired in both library systems, Herman and the city. Today went into the library here in Hermann and renewed my card.


Tomorrow I’m going to the Hermann Hospital to have a kidney scan. There’s nothing wrong but my doctor asked me to do this so yeah whatever OK.

Tomorrow on the way home from Hermann I plan to stop at the red cross blood donation center just off the highway we take. That’s going to be my new blood donation center and I want to check it out, see what they require for appointments and etc.

Iris, that sounds about right to me for the new two dose shingles shot.

Some people won’t believe until it happens to someone that they know. Like the young man in his 30’s whose dying words to a nurse is I should have taken this seriously instead of thinking it was a hoax. He had went to a big event with no masks or social distancing a few weeks before.

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Originally Posted by iris lilies

Today I did some things that were normal.


I went to the local pharmacy in Hermann and had my second shingles shot. By the way, what are you people paying for it? Each one is $170. There are two shots in the series.


My library cards have expired in both library systems, Herman and the city. Today went into the library here in Hermann and renewed my card.


Tomorrow I’m going to the Hermann Hospital to have a kidney scan. There’s nothing wrong but my doctor asked me to do this so yeah whatever OK.

Tomorrow on the way home from Hermann I plan to stop at the red cross blood donation center just off the highway we take. That’s going to be my new blood donation center and I want to check it out, see what they require for appointments and etc.

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I think my shingles shots were $160 apiece, so that sounds about right. If I recall correctly insurance was able to knock $20 or $30 off the price they paid. I only paid a copayment.

I'm jealous that you can go to the library. In SF the libraries are still closed and will be until at least the end of august. Many of the staff have been put in service dealing with covid as contact tracers and other jobs dealing with the pandemic. The last email update from the library was that they hope to reopen for curbside reserve pickup starting after Labor Day. In the meantime they have extended the due dates of all books that were checked out when they closed in mid-March until September 30th.

I didn't even pay a copay for my shingles shots (both doses).

Our library is now open for limited hours and services. Curbside pickup is now by appt only. They're asking people to keep their visits short. Computer use is only for 30 minutes.

I’m pretty sure the pharmacy checked last time and Medicare doesn’t cover shingles shots. If it does cover them then I guess I’m out the money. Whatever. To me this is just stuff you pay for.

I was surprised that our insurance paid 100% of the cost of the shingles vaccine for both of us. I think it was about $200 per injection at Costco.

Now my husband has COVID symptoms. He doesn’t want to get a test because the Q-tip goes into your nose and all the way back into your sinuses beneath your eyeball. He can’t imagine going through that. My description probably didn't help. Ha!

I’m not gonna push it because it doesn’t really matter anyway. As long as he is stable at home while recovering it’ll be the same plan either way. He is isolating with me anyway because we’re in the same household.

My cold symptoms are almost gone now. But the tiredness and hot flashes continue. No fever though. Husband has more GI upset with fatigue. So far we’re both breathing fine.

Our insurance paid for the shot. But we pay a huge amount in addition to Medicare for our "super" supplemental policy. We are going to evaluate changing it during open season since we are no longer traveling overseas.