Masks won't save us, vaccines will. False equivalency.Quote:
Originally Posted by boss mare
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Masks won't save us, vaccines will. False equivalency.Quote:
Originally Posted by boss mare
Flying is optional for most people, whereas covid restrictions have touched every aspect of life. George W. Bush said go shopping, don't let the terrorists win by gutting our economy, don't give in to fear. With covid the message was the opposite. People lost businesses, the right to practice their religion, the right to leave their house even to go out in their yard, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Keep up with your sad perspective. Apparently that is good for people who want to pretend that they aren’t responsible for lots of death. Yeah dead people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
If you actually cared you’d be planning a move to Florida, texas, Idaho or Alaska. Lots of dead people there. most of them must be old so **** em ‘right???’
I am not responsible for anyone's death. My state does extensive contact tracing and I have not been tied to a single case.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Try facts, not hyperbole.
And beware official causes of death, as in the article about "TB deaths" I posted a link to that you never read or responded to.
I’m sorry. I didn’t realize it was a requirement that I respond to every one of your posts where you bitch and moan about a little piece of cloth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
The article is not about masks. It is about false medical diagnoses.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Is that your new obsession?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
I guess I am a little obsessed with truth, justice and freedom. Twelve of my ancestors fought in the American Revolution against British tyranny, so I come by it honestly.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Just don't drag the rest of us who live in this country down with your obsessive obsessions, we don't want to live 250 years ago, we think measures to prevent death in a pandemic are appropriate, and that has nothing to do with why any of my ancestors came here. Thank heavens, such things may exist, but not the garbage definitions usually being used. But does truth exist? As teased out a bit at a time and tentatively by science? Well sure okay. But your definition of truth is ever shifting. So the Indian data would point to it was not exclusively old frail people at the end of life dying (it wouldn't be in a country that skews young, but it clearly shows that this can affect younger people). But then it gets switched to "well maybe they were fat" or something, as if fat was some moral issue that means they deserved to die.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
But why did my relatives come here etc.? Well some fled drafts, although my dad was drafted in the U.S., worked in hospitals in wartime, and all he ever got out of it, and all he ever taught us out of it, was a powerful opposition to war. Go figure. They came due to famine, due to not wanting to be drafted in wars, due to wanting to escape a rigid class system (the irony is that there is now less social movement across classes than where they fled, but once upon a time there was more economic opportunity here than where they were, and so they came for it). So economics in many cases, I suspect that is true for the vast majority of immigrants.