Conavirus......

Jeppy: I don't know why, but you seem to have somehow gotten the idea that we are a bunch of anti-vaxxers. I think we are pretty much all vaccinated, and you are the one who is now talking about not getting a flu shot to spite the governor. I do believe in vaccines, but I also believe that vaccinated people can still get covid, so I'm happy to hedge my bets with a mask for indoor public places. I presumably wouldn't get as sick as someone who wasn't vaccinated, but I would prefer not to get sick at all.

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Originally Posted by Chicken lady

I went to buy some essential supplies this week - curbside as always as the merchant does not require or request masks. In fact, the outside of the building has been covered with very mask hostile posters for some time and the store ignored our state mask mandate when it was in effect.

the posters were gone. The doors and windows were open for ventilation. And the proprietor told me he lost a dear friend - healthy, 42, and fully vaccinated - to covid last week.

all I could do was say I was sorry.

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It's so sad that it takes this sort of situation to bring some people to their senses.

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Originally Posted by rosarugosa

Jeppy: I don't know why, but you seem to have somehow gotten the idea that we are a bunch of anti-vaxxers. I think we are pretty much all vaccinated, and you are the one who is now talking about not getting a flu shot to spite the governor. I do believe in vaccines, but I also believe that vaccinated people can still get covid, so I'm happy to hedge my bets with a mask for indoor public places. I presumably wouldn't get as sick as someone who wasn't vaccinated, but I would prefer not to get sick at all.

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And you are welcome to wear a mask. I will not ridicule you, say why do you have a diaper on your face (as was said to me when I followed the mask mandate), etc.

The CDC eventually changed its direction to reflect the fact that if a mask stops covid particles going out it also stops them coming in, which is just common sense. So if you believe masks work, wear one if you are scared of covid to protect yourself, but don't expect me to.

I have some song lyrics for this - "I'll do me and you do you".

With colder weather I know homeless people like to congregate at the library and probably don't want to wear masks for hours on end there, so I thought they would be a good group to come to the Board of Health meeting and speak on behalf of my petition to repeal the mask mandate. Emailed the local homeless shelter but the staff there were not interested. I may yet go hang out around the library on a cold, rainy day and see if I can get some of these folks on board. Just because their social workers don't care about the issue doesn't mean they don't.

I never get the flu vaccine because I only get it about once every 10 years and it’s really hit or miss on getting it right for whatever strain is going around. Colds and viruses in general are down probably because of masks. Asian countries have been wearing them for years in order not to catch crap. Unfortunately I have developed a bad cold and can’t go to California today to visit my friend.

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Originally Posted by Yppej

With colder weather I know homeless people like to congregate at the library and probably don't want to wear masks for hours on end there, so I thought they would be a good group to come to the Board of Health meeting and speak on behalf of my petition to repeal the mask mandate. Emailed the local homeless shelter but the staff there were not interested…

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Why would the “staff” want to make homeless people more of a target than they already are? You know anyone who speaks at those meetings has to give their name for the record, right?

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Originally Posted by mschrisgo2

Why would the “staff” want to make homeless people more of a target than they already are? You know anyone who speaks at those meetings has to give their name for the record, right?

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Not sure what you mean by a target - targeted by the virus? There has been a struggle to get the homeless vaccinated. My suggestion was that if the policy changes so vaccinated people are allowed to come into the library without a mask it will incentivize vaccination. Right now why get vaccinated when you are treated the same as an unvaccinated person?

The odd thing is except for those who have their legitimate reasons, those who have lost someone(s) they are still grieving - grief has it's own time table it takes what it takes, lost a job and still haven't found another in one's niche despite overall strong job market, closed businesses, long covid) most vaccinated people in the U.S. are kind of mentally moving on from the pandemic. With scars perhaps, but still. Whereas anti-vaxxers (still seeking an alternate medicine) and those still upset they have to wear a mask to the supermarket, stay mired in it forever.

I have also noticed many public health officials, front-line medical workers, and first responders moving on to different jobs and professions, burned out from the pandemic and now the recent public misbehaviour by a small but significant portion of our population.

Several local organizations I have data on are down nearly 40% in staff as of last week, compared to 2 years ago.

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Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore

The odd thing is except for those who have their legitimate reasons, those who have lost someone(s) they are still grieving - grief has it's own time table it takes what it takes, lost a job and still haven't found another in one's niche despite overall strong job market, closed businesses, long covid) most vaccinated people in the U.S. are kind of mentally moving on from the pandemic. With scars perhaps, but still. Whereas anti-vaxxers (still seeking an alternate medicine) and those still upset they have to wear a mask to the supermarket, stay mired in it forever.

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Good point. I feel like I have moved on from it mentally to a large degree.