Conavirus......

Seems the logical response to someone caught Delta and was vaccinated would be either: breakthrough cases are not a worry for many people but they are for some groups OR everyone should get a booster. Because both worrying and wearing masks have to be inferior responses than vaccination.

But the powers that be can't even bring themselves to that conclusion, they hem and haw, go back and forth, can't even decide how many months one should wait for a booster if they get one (6 or 8?), never even mind trying to decide which booster (mixing and matching seems most likely to maximize immunity seems to me), until noone can make any sense of it all anymore.

But the thing about risk is if it eventually (even if it's after 3 or 4 shots) approaches the background risk of living then no, not everyone is going to care all the time, nor should they, because I don't look up auto fatalities every day either and I know they happen and I don't want people I care about to get in auto accidents.

Avoiding people, well yes it's like how abstinence is the only 100% effective birth control, avoiding people is the only 100% effective covid prevention.

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Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore

Seems the logical response to someone caught Delta and was vaccinated would be either: breakthrough cases are not a worry for many people but they are for some groups OR everyone should get a booster. Because both worrying and wearing masks have to be inferior responses than vaccination.

But the powers that be can't even bring themselves to that conclusion, they hem and haw, go back and forth, can't even decide how many months one should wait for a booster if they get one (6 or 8?), never even mind trying to decide which booster (mixing and matching seems most likely to maximize immunity seems to me), until noone can make any sense of it all anymore.

But the thing about risk is if it eventually (even if it's after 3 or 4 shots) approaches the background risk of living then no, not everyone is going to care all the time, nor should they, because I don't look up auto fatalities every day either and I know they happen and I don't want people I care about to get in auto accidents.

Avoiding people, well yes it's like how abstinence is the only 100% effective birth control, avoiding people is the only 100% effective covid prevention.

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Maybe it's just me, but I don't stop living NOR do I stop caring - I don't believe the two are mutually exclusive.

Some people just don't want to accept that covid is now endemic rather than a pandemic in most of the US. They want to stay in crisis mode forever, maybe because in the case of health authorities this makes them feel more important.

It appears we will be in for a bad flu season, and perhaps when people see flu deaths outpacing covid deaths this nonsense will stop, though for fanatics the message will be we must wear masks to stop the flu.

Interestingly a town in my state where cases rose didn't impose masks in the library. Instead they went to curbside pickup. They must have realized masks don't work.

If you were around someone you knew had covid, would you trust any random mask to keep you safe? Medical providers in covid wards don't. They know better.

Bf had to call in sick from the booster but is recovering, started feeling better 42 hours after the shot. The recommendations around boosters change pretty much by the day, but imagine expecting them to meet widespread uptake, in a country with no guaranteed paid sick leave, where even if you do it on the start of a Saturday you are still sick come Monday. LOL, unrealistic much.

I am still waiting on the sidelines.

I got my shots on a Friday after work. My second dose was the Friday before Memorial Day so I had three days to recover. But not everyone works standard M - F.

Saw on the news this morning that there is a big jump in patients needing liver transplants as many more people were drinking to excess due to the stress of covid and its restrictions.

Covid has now killed more Americans than HIV has. And it only took 4% as much time.

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Originally Posted by Yppej

Saw on the news this morning that there is a big jump in patients needing liver transplants as many more people were drinking to excess due to the stress of covid and its restrictions.

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I saw that, too. The rise in transplant requests has jumped 50%!!! Shocking.

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Originally Posted by jp1

Covid has now killed more Americans than HIV has. And it only took 4% as much time.

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I guess masks don't work the way condoms do. They give a false sense of security that lets people hop on airplanes and jet around among other things.

I found this article on Ron DeSantis who some mean folks here have labelled DeathSantis interesting:

https://nypost.com/2021/10/28/florid...ndle-covid-19/

A snippet:

"His sensible moves, such as not forcing low-risk kids to wear masks, was treated as akin to murder by the media."

I have noticed Florida is in much better shape than my high mandate state according to the CDC map of community transmission.