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Originally Posted by Yppej
That is INSANE. LA county is 10x SF county. We've never had anywhere near 500 cases in one day. With multiple vaccines showing lots of promise and moving steadily through the testing pipeline I will gladly wait this out at home and limited exposure to the outside world. I realize that I am incredibly fortunate to have that option.Quote:
Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore
And once schools reopen case counts everywhere they do will explode. We can't keep baseball players safe, we can't keep Louie Gohmert's staff (and possibly Bill Barr who was canoodling with him yesterday) safe (since everyone was forced to come to the office every day and not wear masks and now he has it), do we really think students are somehow magically going to be safe?
I saw on the news last night that due to covid economic shutdowns the number of people starving to death in the Third World is expected to double. Children will be most affected. So the privileged in First World countries have decided to protect their elderly (average age for someone who dies of covid is in their eighties) by sacrificing the younger generation elsewhere.
I was also thinking that many of those dying now would not have been alive in 1918 at the age and with the health conditions they have. Due to advances in medicine people with comorbidities are living longer, and we expect them to be able to live closer and closer to forever.
NPR‘s fresh air show had a interview with an ESPN broadcaster who covers baseball. He said he’s worn a mask when playing games and it’s tough. He said then add in high humidity heat, in St. Louis for instance and you’re talking about a very real restriction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
Again, if we had taken this seriously from the very beginning and shut everything down for a month or two, COVID19 would be behind us, as it is in New Zealand.
Opening everything up would only result in ongoing waves of illness, potentially forever--since there's no evidence of lasting immunity--with significant deaths in all age groups. Not my idea of success.
New Zealand isn’t letting in furrinurs.I would hardly think of that as being back to normal. They are also very protective of their little Kiwi paradise by not letting in plants. That is affecting their ability to hybridize effectively.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
When Trump shut out Chinamen which seemed like a rational first effort to me in the atmosphere of knowing very little about this virus, hue and cry took place.Xenophic that was.
edited to make sense.
If we got it under control, we could consider normalizing at that point.
New Zealand will likely keep an eye on international infection levels, and act accordingly.
Our response has been pathetic.
More young people are dying from the virus not just the expendable old.
I’m on day 22. This is a VERY gradual recovery. I’m so glad to be home this whole time. And glad that I’ve got several months of sick time accrued. FMLA is only valuable if one has the pay to cover the time.
I’m still sleeping 12-15 hours a day and resting most of my waking hours. I decide to do one thing (ie: put the laundry in and add detergent) and then I need to sit down for a while. Unbelievable.
Hope your healing goes well Tammy!
Wishing you continued healing, Tammy.
I got a jury summons today for October. Nothing like cramming me and a bunch of other people in a stuffy room with no windows in the midst of a pandemic. I will talk to my boss tomorrow about whether that is a good time for me to go and get it over with or if I should postpone.
Tammy, I hope you continue to heal.
Wishing you the best in recovery, Tammy.
Thanks! Just finished a telehealth visit with our nurse practitioner who is managing all of our employees with Covid. (We have about 4000 employees in our hospital system.) I’m off work through end of august. They are following a protocol that is ensuring we don’t return too soon. Trying to avoid any relapses.
Thanks for the update, Tammy! Hope you’re feeling better very soon!
Having the month of August to recuperate and not having to worry about works sounds perfect. I hope you continue to heal.
We're all pulling for you, Tammy. Feel better soon! Glad you don't have to worry about things you shouldn't have to.
Rest and be well, Tammy! Glad to hear you're off for a bit!
So glad to hear that your workplace is making this as easy as possible for you to recover. Continued healing wishes going out to you.
I heard on the radio today New Zealand has gone months with no new domestic cases, no mask mandates or advisories, and no social distancing or curfews. Bars are open and you can dance as close to others in clubs as you want.
They banned anyone from other countries from coming in. So the US didn't go far enough fast enough with international travel restrictions.
I am starting to think xenophobia aka living locally is the answer. A lot of the international interconnectedness that neoliberals and neoconservatives espouse with their trade agreements and wars just benefits big multinational companies and spreads germs.
New Zealand also did a hard lockdown for 5 weeks, followed by a very cautious reopening for two more weeks. With decent coordinated leadership we could have done the same. And still could for that matter. But we won't.
Heard on the news this morning that Navy Pier, the biggest tourist attraction in Chicago, might shut down. Didn’t open until sometime in June and they’re $20 million in the hole. The big Ferris wheel is still closed.
How it's done when you have an unexpected flare-up:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisond...c#2aae421e5c26
Yea, restrictions on international travel are necessary but unless you have a strategy to control the virus in your own country only so useful. New Zealand did. The U.S. doesn't. They have a female social democratic leader (she's really beyond awesome on many things - no we can't get it that good - study her for what good leadership would look like). We have Trump.Quote:
New Zealand also did a hard lockdown for 5 weeks, followed by a very cautious reopening for two more weeks. With decent coordinated leadership we could have done the same. And still could for that matter. But we won't.
I was more a proponent of living locally, maybe I still believe in shopping locally, but I've decided I might actually like to visit somewhere like New Zealand, just to see what it's like in a county that's not an un-developing 3rd worldizing kleptocracy.
That sums it up well. Surely, we'd be the laughing stock of the world if we didn't have nukes.Quote:
Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore
I bought a couple of neck gaiters today. If you wet them they are cooler than a mask. If it is warm on my vacation time I can wear them. I think the state should be providing face coverings rather thrusting an unfunded mandate on the people, so I purchased the covering that experts say may do more harm than good. Not that this will teach the tyrants, but it may make me more comfortable and give me a sense of satisfaction.
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Originally Posted by Yppej
((Tammy))
I hope the long haul brings you health and wholeness.
Sending you plump sweet juicy virtual blueberries from the high bushes!
Be well.
Thanks!
My first ventures into mask were a neck gator and some N95 masks that were out in the garage but have the exhalation valve. Now both of those are not recommended. Then I bought some masks from Adidas that are supposed to be good for exercise. They don't have the metal piece to mold around the nose and cause my sunglasses to fog up. I just ordered one of the Beau Ties off Amazon (thanks for the suggestion) thinking I would like the nose piece and adjustable ear straps. I expect masks are here to stay and don't mind a little trial and error. Not into the disposables being a hopeless environmentalist, but I suspect in the big scheme of things it's not that important.
And...best wishes Tammy!
I have already gone through two masks - straps wore out on one and the other was white and got stained. This is getting really old.
This is the mask company we have used: https://www.shopprefix.com/products/nightingale-mask
Their masks are sturdy and have stood up to many wearings and washings. They do have the metal strip that is so essential for those of us who wear glasses.
I have 10 I can rotate. Only one had the elastic wear out.
I continue to take in news and in the past 24 hours I have heard of large numbers of false positives in both Massachusetts and Connecticut. I also heard that 40% of deaths are in nursing homes although only 1% of the population lives in them. Meanwhile schools, designed for the young, continue to report numbers like due to 20 positive tests 1200 students and faculty are quarantining although in none of these cases are any of the 20 reported as having symptoms, being sick, being hospitalized or dying. How many of these cases are even real and not false positives?
Common sense seems to have fallen prey to paranoia. Let kids with immune problems and those living in multigenerational homes, or just those who are afraid, go to school virtually, but don't shut down the schools for flimsy reasons. I wonder in future years if we will look on this like we did the mass paranoia that started with Fells Acre Day Care. For those of you too young to remember, it was the start of hysteria about supposed sexual abuse in daycares that later turned out to be largely nonexistent. Charlatans hopped on the bandwagon convincing people they had been molested but suppressed the memories. Now we have a medical industrial complex selling bad tests with false positives to fuel the flames of anxiety and direct more and more of our economy towards their sector. We aren't even supposed to breathe freely anymore, but wear masks that trap our carbon dioxide around our faces because vents on masks are bad. It's disheartening.
My cousin's wife is a teacher in a small town in western Kansas. Population 4800. Last week that county had 27 cases. Today they have 69. And a greater than 10% positive test rate. In other words it's completely out of control and soon the infection rate will look like NYC during the worst time there. But not to worry. The county has a hospital with 18 beds/5 ICU... School is opening next week with no restrictions. Cousin's wife went to a teacher planning session yesterday and she and her co-teacher were the only ones caring enough to wear masks. CW lives in a neighboring county. If she catches it at work she will take it home to her family and everyone else she comes in contact with. Hopefully CW and her family will be smart enough to stay away from my elderly aunt/uncle who live nearby.
Kids and younger people are dying. I guess you missed that Y.
Here’s info on COVID long haulers:
https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/615382/
I’m at 6 weeks and in no shape to return to work yet. I’m hoping I fully recover by month 3.
The hardest part for me is not doubting myself that I have ongoing fatigue and shortness of breath with exertion. I fall into the category of those who were raised to pull myself up by bootstraps, don’t be a whiner, push yourself, work hard ... “it’s all in your head”
I bought a pulse ox because it gives me objective data - helps with the self doubt.
I drop to 90-92% with exertion. But I have great improvement in other areas. Just not the fatigue and drop in pulse ox.
Tammy that’s awful.